One thing that pisses me off about christians!

[geoff]

your are absolutely right. Jesus provided Himself as a spotless, sin free, and perfect sacrifice. and your also right that without it we would never be able to receive the Holy Spirit. i see you still remember something from your preaching days. this statement is the truest and only honest one you have made.

but where your wrong is that we would never have to have done this deed. our own blood could never save us because of all of our sins. we would have had to kept giving animal sacrifices and burnt offererings and would have been still under the law of Moses.

[StreetHazard]

your are absolutely right. Jesus provided Himself as a spotless, sin free, and perfect sacrifice. and your also right that without it we would never be able to receive the Holy Spirit. i see you still remember something from your preaching days. this statement is the truest and only honest one you have made.

but where your wrong is that we would never have to have done this deed. our own blood could never save us because of all of our sins. we would have had to kept giving animal sacrifices and burnt offererings and would have been still under the law of Moses.

You would allow a man (and yes, he was just a man) to be crucified and murdered and martyred for your sad and very pathetic belief, why would you sacrifice animals? why would you burn incense? why the fuck would you allow the death your teacher? For what? For this concept of being guilty just for acting upon our very nature? Fuck that, fuck that with a fork. If you were on the hills of Calvary you might as well just hammer in the nails yourself.

Your morality is skewed Geoff not mine, you could never be trusted as far as any man could throw you. By the very nature of your belief you are a hypocrite and a liar along with everyone in your flock. Any opinion you have of "right and wrong" is like a log of shit in my glass that you are waiting expectantly for me to drink. You are no less guilty in your false justifications in giving to the "glory of god" then the men that flew airplanes into those towers.

your mind is being twisted by your faith, the sooner you let it go the sooner you will find your freedom from it's shackles.