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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanTun3r View Post
    If God was real, then why do Christians think they know him?

    God is infinite in every sense of the word. He does not think, because he already knows. He does not exist, yet he does exist at the same time. He is everywhere, and nowhere. He is so far above us that we can not comprehend him at all. That's it, end of story. I do not understand why christians think they know what god wants and what his will is.

    As it stands, if there were such a divine spirit, we would have no idea what he thinks. And that's just it. An omniscient god does not think, he knows everything about everything. We as humans can not, and could not understand him or comprehend his existence in any way shape or form even if he were to be right in front of us.

    It's like when we are outside and we see an ant walk by. The ant sees us, but it does not know what we are. It is simply incapable of having the thought process to comprehend what we are. It just sees some huge object in front of it, and either walk on us or around us. It is not able to anticipate how we think, or why we do the things we do! So why do christians try to anticipate what god wants for us and think they know all about his "wants"

    The same is true with god, we have no way of truly knowing what he wants or how he thinks! We as humans must understand that an omniscient god does not think like us. He does not have a human brain nor think like us. He is a god and already knows everything. So why would he create, the earth, humans, give us the bible, just to see if we would make good or bad decisions. That to me, sounds like something a child might do. God already knows want we would do, as he knows the past, present, and future. He knows what would happen before it does, so why would he do this? hmmmm
    Two ways to answer this, so you can take your pick and run with it.

    1) In regards to our humanity: The finite or a finite being can never ever comprehend that which is infinite. What we comprehend is still only as finite as our minds are capable of even imagining. To think that we know what happened before us is an illusion.

    2) In regards to Christianity: We believe that the Bible is God inspired. He didn't leave us with nothing but instead gave us a road map of sorts. Why would he do this when he is all-knowing? I can answer that with another question: What is better than the best? God uses us to glorify himself... it's all over the Bible about this and Christians know it. Selfish? Quite so, but there in again... our feable finite minds cannot understand that which is infinite and what can ever be better than that which is already the best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahabion View Post
    Two ways to answer this, so you can take your pick and run with it.

    1) In regards to our humanity: The finite or a finite being can never ever comprehend that which is infinite. What we comprehend is still only as finite as our minds are capable of even imagining. To think that we know what happened before us is an illusion.

    2) In regards to Christianity: We believe that the Bible is God inspired. He didn't leave us with nothing but instead gave us a road map of sorts. Why would he do this when he is all-knowing? I can answer that with another question: What is better than the best? God uses us to glorify himself... it's all over the Bible about this and Christians know it. Selfish? Quite so, but there in again... our feable finite minds cannot understand that which is infinite and what can ever be better than that which is already the best?
    The way I see it is, that if there was an omniscient god who was all powerful/all knowing, why would he want to be glorified by us? To be glorified? Because he is selfish? These are human attributes and I do not think god would have any type of human emotion since he is perfect and all knowing. I think many people picture god of having all these human characteristics but if he did, then he would not be perfect and would not be all knowing because we all know that we as humans are exteremly flawed beings. I think people just need to stop portraying god to be a human, he is not one of us. He is above us, he transcends us in ways we can literally not imagine. But then again, when it really comes down to it none of us can understand him, or his wants if he even has any. We understand as much about god as an ant is capable of understanding us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanTun3r View Post
    The way I see it is, that if there was an omniscient god who was all powerful/all knowing, why would he want to be glorified by us? To be glorified? Because he is selfish? These are human attributes and I do not think god would have any type of human emotion since he is perfect and all knowing. I think many people picture god of having all these human characteristics but if he did, then he would not be perfect and would not be all knowing because we all know that we as humans are exteremly flawed beings. I think people just need to stop portraying god to be a human, he is not one of us. He is above us, he transcends us in ways we can literally not imagine. But then again, when it really comes down to it none of us can understand him, or his wants if he even has any. We understand as much about god as an ant is capable of understanding us.
    Depending on the theology, the creation of us in his likeness is essentially the only way we can hope to learn and understand God. We laugh, we cry, have emotions. Again, based on the theology, we were created first as spirit beings before flesh. We have a soul, emotions... How we can relate to the one who created us is how we can look at ourselves... do we know this to be true... no of course not. But much like an orphan can learn to understand who is parents were or are, is to look and observe the likeness of themselves or their siblings.

    Then there was Emmanuel.

    The Bible provides a road map to comprehend the big why... in life, finances, marriage, relationships, an understanding of the one who created us. It's weird how the pages in such an ancient story book directly mirrors the lives that we all live today...

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