Faith and how it relates to religion and science

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Originally Posted by 5speed

Now I am here


Yes, indeed

Now most would agree that Albert Einstein was one of the greatest scientists of all time, correct? You know the guy responsible for the development of theory of relativity, photoelectric effect and Brownian motion, and the reason we have an atom bomb.

"I, at any rate, am convinced that He (God) does not throw dice."

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

"Nature shows us only the tail of the lion. But I do not doubt that the lion belongs to it even though he cannot at once reveal himself because of his enormous size."

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

and my personal favorite

"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions."


See even this genius had Faith. This is not an argument to make you believe but to show faith in both science and God.

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But to give the whole picture, he also said:

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere, “Religion and Science”, New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

So his idea of God is quite different from any modern mainstram religions' God and I don't see how you reach a conclusion that science = faith. Maybe I misunderstood your conclusion though because I agree that religious faith and science can coexist.

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Originally Posted by bu villain

But to give the whole picture, he also said:

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere, “Religion and Science”, New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

So his idea of God is quite different from any modern mainstram religions' God and I don't see how you reach a conclusion that science = faith. Maybe I misunderstood your conclusion though because I agree that religious faith and science can coexist.

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Good quote. I didnt say that he was of a certain religion nor do I know what it is. He simply states that he believes in a God. Taking God seriously is another story. He also believes in science. He didnt know for sure that splitting an atom would make a reaction as it does, but he had faith in his theory. I was just showing that they can coexist. The debate over whether God is real or not is a different topic and up to oneself.

sounds like we are in agreement then as long as you are defining "faith in his theory" to mean, feels confident about the outcome of an event based on years of studying measurable and reproducable events that gave him insight into how atoms and energy work.