!!!LIFT HAITI UP IN YOUR PRAYERS!!!
I'm sure by now many of you have heard about the earthquake in Haiti and the amount of damage an lives lost. I myself have grandparents in the capital Port-au-Prince as well as aunts, uncles, and cousins. What Haiti needs the most right now is prayer. Please take a couple of seconds out an say a couple words to whomever you believe in. Thank You. God Bless.!
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22219780/detail.html
Here is a link to a organization based in Atlanta which is built with, by, and for Haitians and Haiti alike! Also a reliable non-profit organization to whom you can send donations and funds to the catastrophe in the country. Keep praying!
http://www.hmtcc.org/
Im sure theyll be in Miami soon enough
Easy there, friend... mother earth is just shaking the fleas off.
Pray to god for what? He's the one that sent the earthquake right?
This is gold right here.Originally Posted by StreetHazard
The religious world is one of hypocrisy. The Religious ones say to keep Haiti in your prayers.....when their religion is responsible for WAY more deaths than that natural disaster is. They say pray to the Lord, when the Lord is the one that sent the disaster in the first place since he is the almighty.
Organized religion is a "Having cake and eating it too" caste of people who feel they can have it good in the best of times....and the worst of times. And if they can't....well....they will just kill you.
Welcome to Organized Religion.
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This is gold right here.
The religious world is one of hypocrisy. The Religious ones say to keep Haiti in your prayers.....when their religion is responsible for WAY more deaths than that natural disaster is. They say pray to the Lord, when the Lord is the one that sent the disaster in the first place since he is the almighty.
Organized religion is a "Having cake and eating it too" caste of people who feel they can have it good in the best of times....and the worst of times. And if they can't....well....they will just kill you.
Welcome to Organized Religion.
well said sir!
Yea. I hated I had too but I look at this like a McDonalds Coffee incident.well said sir!
Christianity is just like any other entity....such as the US Government, McDonalds, Auto Zone.....what have you. When there is a wrongful death or bodily harm, we will NOT hesitate to sue the living hell out of any one of those entities for that infraction.
Enter religion. Everyone just blindly accepts it's misgivings and poor track record in dealing with it's shadier side. We need to actually take it to task for the past. Just like we are doing with Slavery. We are FAST to bring lawsuits against the current administrations for something that WE had nothing to do with, it was the people in the past.
So I say, let's sue the Catholic church for Human Rights Violations throughout history. The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, the rampant spread of Christianity by oppression, torture and death. I feel someone should be accountable for all of this and the Catholic Church looks like teh richest target.
I want my Coffee Settlement by goodness.
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What will praying for them do, they are already dead or destoyed. They need rebuilding help, not "aww man, too bad you had an earthquake".
natural selection. damn haitians all get here and think they are thugs anyway. maybe god is tired of gangsters.
Sad, but the world is over populated anyways.
So this is how you felt about a 9/11 or just because it wasn't in America your theory of natural selection doesn't apply
An earthquake is a natural occurrence, so human reaction dealing with it falls into natural selection. 9/11 was staged by religious zealots. So if you look at religion as "survival of the fittest" as in "the believers will live, and everyone else has to die, or burn in a fiery pit for all eternity in the afterlife". Then yes natural selection might apply there also in a religious sense but survival only against other humans. Religion does not really wipe out huge populations of animals as "god's will". God's will in that matter is strictly limited to killing or at the least imprisoning upright and talking kind of animals, sadly...humans.
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I never said anything about natural selection...? Actually I was watching it as the second plane happened in my math class in 8th grade. I thought it was a bad thing but what can you do to change it. Nothing! All you can do is make precautions for the future. They should be helped though because it simply is the right thing to do. I do not care if it is in the U.S.A or not. Location doesn't make it better or worse.
I was upset that at a time like this people could shrugg their shoulders. (not pointing fingers at you) All that I was looking for was the comfort of knowing that the Atlanta tuner community would take time out an do what they can to help my family. I apologize if my comment made this turn into something way off topic. But, I'd like to thank those of you that have done what they could.
For those of you who are concerned I'm glad to report that my grandparents are okay. BUT..... my uncle maybe be buried under rubble at a school.
I completely missed that your family was there. You have my sorrow for that. It is very sad and I can say with 100% assurity that I would be upset in your position too.
The fact that it was in the Religious section, which is a hotly debated topic, overshadowed the fact that you had family involved and for that, I am ashamed. My apologies for missing that fact. I am glad your family is alright and wish your Uncle to be found safely.
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Theres a difference between a natural disaster and murder.
And that is just Christianity, you haven't even mentioned Islam! And if you lumped them both together and listed all of the human rights infractions you might actually run out of characters this sight will allow you to post.
I will simplify my earlier post even further.
If you are a believer, and you pray to god after a natural disaster. It would be like thanking the mass-murderer for all the killing.
how about don't live on a fault line.
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I look in this thread and I am kind of lost.
How does everyone feel about hurricanes in Fl, tornadoes in the Midwest, earthquakes/mudslides/wildfires on the west coast? When a disaster hits in America, do you still feel the same way? Do you tell people they are dumb for living in the same area that the hurricanes comes each year?
Religious or not, you guys didn't have to come in here and bash prayer. If you are not religious, leave the thread be. People lost their lives no matter how you slice it. I mean damn, have some compassion. The OP has family there that could be among the dead and you have the nerve to talk shit? This is not the WL.
C'mon guys! I'm not trying to tell you how you should live, but somethings are better left unsaid.
Thanks man. I don't even know why I posted on here to begin with.
Wow this is a disgusting thread. And for clarification, I do not think keeping someone in prayer is a physical act, but mental. Therefore, you are not praying that their physical condition is transformed, as much you pray for spiritual & mental guidance - subsequently giving them the power to move on and mentally defeat the trials that lay before them. PS QD, I Hope you post is a parody on the idiocy in this thread; if not, its not only absurd, but ironic that a white person would complain about a black person committing a petty crime against them, after white Americans has committed grotesque injustices against innocent black men for hundreds of years.
ACTUALLY. You can thank your black brothers for your races problems with the slave trade. The slave trade was actually started by your own people enslaving prisoners of tribal conflicts. Then the Portugese bought the slaves. This went on for oh...around 200 years before whites even got into selling and transporting slaves. Get your story straight.
If you want to point fingers, you can start by pointing them at your own ancestors....and then the Portugese. Funny how nobody ever thinks that way eh? Always the White Man's fault.
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In the 1987, I went to a concert. It was a place known as the Omni (now known as Phillips Arena). The performers at this concert were The Fat Boys, Dana Dane, Salt-N-Pepa and Heavy D. As I was waiting outside the Omni doors, I was accosted by 6 black men who proceeded to rob me. After this show, I was robbed again buy the same 6 with an added 20-30 more. If that made me hate black folks, then I would have to hate one of my own daughters. Think about it.
An eye for an eye, huh? So the possibility that I had an ancestor own a black person 200 years ago is a valid reason for me to be robbed by a black person now? I've now found yet another reason why racism won't die.
Btw, through family research I've learned that no one in my family was slave owners. Now the black guys that robbed me should feel bad.
And those same black guys became friends of mine for years following that robbery. Later, QD.
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i would love to meet you in person so i could have just a little fun with you. make you beg for mercy just a little fun. show you what you military taught me about torture.
That is sad. Is that what your military training taught you to do?
Torture is gutting a person and pulling out their intestines and twisting barbwire around them and tying them to a tree and have a African Wild Dog chase you around in circles until he catches you or your intestines run out so you cant run anymore.
Torture is putting someone in a box that they just barely can get inside of and put them in water to float. Everyday nailing a 9 inch nail in to puncture the victims skin, until they give information or dead.
Just sayin'...and no I didn't come up with these in my twisted head. These are actual tortures used by regimes to conjure up vital information.
Are you on medication?
What's funny about that this is, I was ALSO in the Military big guy, you ought to think about what you say before you say it. I'm not some punkass kid running my mouth simply because my parents let me stay on late. I served in Desert Storm and have details in my Service Record blacked out, if you were in the Military, you ought to know what that means. So if you are going to show me what you learned about menacing helpless people tied up to a chair, save your breath.
So let me get this straight, just so we can all understand.
You are in a Religious thread, about lifting and helping a people....and you are E-thugging me over factual history of a race? All I can say to you is "LOL FAIL"
See, here is how this would go down if we did meet up. You would run your mouth, threaten me, possibly even lay hands upon me. And then....i'd dial up the people that protect and serve me and have your dumb ass arrested, put in jail and then i'd sue the living shit out of you because, since you are so fucking stupid, you have already threatened me in a public forum. So I would just hit you right where it hurts the most, your wallet. Then when it's all said and done, i'll wave at you as you are sent packing back to the Virgin Islands and are back on the PC face rolling your keyboard and typing with your feet.
If you learn ONE thing from this, which you probably won't simply because you seem pretty stupid, NEVER threaten someone. ALWAYS act first, never threaten first. Didn't the Military teach you that Captain Waterboard? They sure as hell taught me that when I went through Boot Camp, SERE School, Offensive Driving school and the other fun schools that I got to participate in.
Think on that Brainiac.
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this thread is full of ignorance.
ignorance.
i'd agree.
Yea, that has been done for hundreds of centuries, but I don't see any problem with one individual complaining about another individual committing a petty crime against them, regardless of either individual's race.
The slave trade in the sense you speak of it did not start with Africans...hence the distinction "Transatlantic Slave Trade". Yes, sometimes people from other tribes were captured during times of war, and became slaves, but not slaves in the way you refer to it as. These slaves were enslaved for a time period, and after their debt was paid, they were eventually released and able to a) marry within the tribe or b) go back to their origin. There wasn't "slave labor"...you worked just as hard as your captor would work. It wasn't lifelong, generation passing, breeding, emasculating, rape, mutilating nor indentity/culture/language destroying and furthermore inhumane chattel slavery. THAT is what American slavery was.
who did they sell and transport them to? lol. ohh, okay.
With that said, I am wayyyy off topic from the OP, lol.
I'm praying for Haiti.
Way to put your own personal agenda in front of the issue at hand here.
Are you telling everyone about praying for Haiti in hopes that anyone who reads the thread will think better of you?
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Personal agenda? Lol personal agenda being...
Think better of me because...
You aren't making ANY sense.
What are you talking about Lankhoss?
Yes...it is, and you just added to it because you, like Revolution, only read what you wish to see.
Interesting. So in all that, you say that Slavery was not the way I put it....but here.
You asked who they sold the very same people that you say were not the same slaves too?
Make up your mind dude. And please, read up on history and how it relates to what I said. African slavery started with Africans. End of story. They were either sold to each other, where yes, they could intermarry and it was by far the least devestating form of slavery, but it was still....slavery. Or, they were sold to the Arabs. Which was worse, but still not as bad as being marched to the coast and sold to the Europeans. Which was the worst.
But either way....they were sold by THEIR OWN PEOPLE!.
Let's not even get into the fact that the slave trade involving Blacks, is still alive and well to this day. They outlawed Slavery in Niger in ....2003! and it there are still slaves there to this day. Sudan, Mali, Mauritania, Ethiopia. Slavery of African Americans in the USA was terrible 400 years ago, for sure. But I don't see the people who NEVER suffered slavery jumping up to help people that are still being enslaved. Think on that.
Thank you, /discussion on Slavery.
Last edited by Glides; 01-19-2010 at 05:31 PM.
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I don't think the argument was if or if not America kicks ass, instead, I think the original purpose of the thread was to lift up the spirits Haiti. Regardless of the their race, creed, ethnicity, economic status, gang affiliation etc. They're human beings, and because of that some compassion should be in our hearts.
It was the original topic, but some misguided person decided to voice his thoughts about America and he had to be straightened out. So just relax. Later, QD.
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Not to contradict myself, but I'd rather trade Haiti's suffering for Lane Kiffin and his two face antics.
Pointing fingers solves nothing....please scratch that topic because IA as a whole can't handle it. Those that perpetuated it are as guilty as those who "started" it.
This thread is about the tragedy in Hati, and uplifting the spirits of those affected by the quakes. Can we please get back to that simple point.
Thanks in advance.
Good point. Back on topic.
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Agreed. Later, QD.
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I know that my first post in this thread made me out to sound like an asshole, but in all honesty, I cannot stop crying over here.... I mean, it's funny how at least 100k ppl are dead, and I just shrug my shoulders. If a 1000 people died in a western city from some kind of disaster I'd be glued to cnn.
I guess not all people are born equal
and qd when did i say tht america has done noting to help out other countries. what i was stating is that most americans dont really give a shit about anything or anyone unless it happeds in the own back yard and i dont mind on the mainland i mean n there own state or city. most of you really wouldnt give a shit if this happed n cali most of u would have been like ao well tht gets quakes all the time who told them to move to cali some out the ass answer like that. and speaking of helping how many og have you have volunter to help out any one but your dam self use i was n the us army and dam pround of it served i didnt sit here and piss and moan i actually served this country in peace and at war wht the fuck have you done
I didn't gather any sense from this post.
What you DID say was that you don't give a fuck about the people of New Orleans because "americans dont give a fuck unless it directly affects them." How inhumane is that? Did the people of New Orleans do something to you to cause you to feel no compassion for them? How do you know that they didn't give a fuck? You usually don't make any sense with your post and this post is no exception.
I'm from Cali.
There you go with assuming shit, man. What makes you think I haven't done anything? Because I disagree with everything you say? Later, QD.
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