Originally Posted by OUTLAW
Welcome to the WORLD dude. NOBODY cares much about shit unless it happens in THEIR country.
If an Earthquake hit downtown New York today, you wouldn't see Haiti sending shit over here. But oh.....we are sending troops, supplies and a Hospital ship.
So honestly, stop your whining.
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and qd when did i say tht america has done noting to help out other countries. what i was stating is that most americans dont really give a shit about anything or anyone unless it happeds in the own back yard and i dont mind on the mainland i mean n there own state or city. most of you really wouldnt give a shit if this happed n cali most of u would have been like o well they gets quakes all the time who told them to move to cali some out the ass answer like that. and speaking of helping how many of you have volunter to help out any one but your dam self yes i was n the us army and dam pround of it i served i didnt sit here and piss and moan i actually served this country in peace and at war wht the fuck have you done
I have helped but I am not going to sit here and talk about it. How do you know some of these people you are arguing haven't volunteered to help out in a time of need? Don't sit there and assume that you are the only righteous one here bc you served in the military. I am glad you are pround of it, but I will say I am something better than that of you. I am proud of you.
Ok, where was this going?
You quoted me, responded to someone else, and duplicated your post... pure genius.
While I agree that we need to send people and equipment...send billions is just a bailout for a poor country that was mismanaged and had a natural disaster. Where does it all end? I think, left to our own devices, we will donate plenty through charity without the govt giving away money that we don't have to begin with.
Edit: Yes billions is an exaggeration.
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I just donated $15 to the red cross, any little can help, and you guys talking bad about what happened and the people there, going to hell with gasoline draws onand that one dude talkin about 9/11, anybody with common sense knows that shit was an inside job
everybody is entitled to their own opinions, i already know someone will quote me and talk shit go ahead be in denial and hate and read my signature
I just donated $15 to the red cross, any little can help, and you guys talking bad about what happened and the people there, going to hell with gasoline draws on
This is brilliant, and eloquent. I am not in denial but awe inspired at the majestic beauty of your words and lack of rep. They resonated inside me with such power I think my balls twitched. It's tough for anyone to judge someone by their screen name, but if I was in a club and they announced a "DJ Pikachu" was going to be on next, I think I would throw my beer bottle at the turn tables.
Lolol. \/ \/ \/
You're certainly right about that. Later, QD.
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Appreciate your donation. The point that I was trying to make (an failed horribly) was the way we came together. All I wanted was for IA to come together for a common cause an help.I just donated $15 to the red cross, any little can help, and you guys talking bad about what happened and the people there, going to hell with gasoline draws on
Like the one we have running through Georgia?
You have to consider the environment, IA is very much different from other forums and many people say things more to get a reaction rather than offer anything useful. Think about it, someone has the "oh I could care less" attitude but they took the time to post multiple times here. If they don't care about the cause they care about your attention otherwise they wouldn't post.. so don't give the satisfaction.
As far as Haiti goes, I'm donating now and I wish there was more I could do. I wish every night I'd get that call that our unit is headed that way to offer help but its probably not going to happen. At the core these people are human beings, and not all of them are Haitian. We have U.S citizens there working at the U.S Embassy as well as the Peace Corps that work there continually. Humanity isn't racial, and it shouldn't be. There is someone out there that cannot help their selves and although I'm not much of a person that turns to prayer, i do hope they get that help.
I know that my "multiple" postings have been to defend the name of this country against an obviously not-so-smart individual. I can't do anything to help as I haven't worked in 5 months. I do, however, really feel for everyone down there. When I watch the news, I am truly saddened by what I see. I'm not a person that lacks compassion for anyone else. Later, QD.
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I understand but not alot of people are on the same page you are on, as you can see
Nor you. Later, QD.
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I am not going to do a thing to help, but they have my useless condolences.
I am glad to see that your family has been found and hope to hear that they find your uncle. I think I just matured a bit from this thread. You simply asked for prayers bc that is what you believe will help them spiritually and I respect that. No need for bashing on religion when a person never asked for your opinion on the subject. I am sorry if I may have offended you and posted unnecessary things. It simply wasn't a time to express our contradicting opinions. We could either give our condolences and/pray for your family or leave the thread.
I agree completely. And I apologize for all the off-track comments I made in here as well. Later, QD.
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I just want to thank all of you , and I'll be sure to let you know when he is found.
to the OP. quit acting like you give half a shit about Haiti. If you really did, you would have been down there helping out their poor asses before this disaster.
on a side note, i saw some pics of the aftermath. All I can say is wow.
It looks like the earthquake caused lots of improvments
let the -reps flow
First off I went this summer, just stfu yo. you don't know shit bout me.!
I am sorry for the late response Glides but I find it crucial that I defy your historical statement. First and foremost this is not an historical thread, and would have no problem teaching you whatever you would like to know, whether that be through text, phone, email, or. Secondly, if you read my post correctly, my direction was not focusing on the deaths of over 13 million slaves, but on the monstrosities American minority civilians dealt with post Civil War/ 13th Amendment. Therefore, because this thread is somewhat sardonic, allowing nothing but sad uneducated internet thugs to dispose their racist comments, I will not entertain the hurtful comments. But what I will, and I repeat will, attempt to defend, is anyone in or outside of this thread that is being prosecuted or inaccurately defined by history; by someone with no historical degree, no field experience, no masters, no PhD, no qualifications, never read an unbiased first hand historical BOOK, etc. etc. And I repeat, this is not a reply insulting the character of anyone in this thread, instead, this is a plea that if we are not specializing academically in a specific field, or cannot provide unbiased commentary on a subject - REALLY how serious can someone really take our comments. Are we speaking through experience, have we studied and read as much as we possibly could; and subsequently, when we make a bold statement, something that drastically infringes on the character of some human being, and we do not take precaution what does that say about ourselves. Is our voice even worthy of being heard?
I love how people all of a sudden care about that shithole of a country now that they had a "tragedy." Haiti has been one of the worst countries on the planet for decades, yet no one ever cared. Imagine this : Me as a white american goes to Haiti. What do you think would happen? More than likely they would slit my throat and steal my money. Just look at the Haitians in Miami, they are 99% pure scum. So do I feel bad that their country just got pwned? No. I also disagree with the fact that America always feels the need to jump on every opportunity to help another nation out. We have our own god damn problems, we don't need to be sending all this aid over there, when there are American children dieing on the streets from starvation.
Yes because there are absolutely no whites in Haiti.. I've seen at least 2 that are missing from the Atlanta area alone. It's funny how this whole "we have our own problems" sentiment jumps up now but Iraq is justified.
to the OP. quit acting like you give half a shit about Haiti. If you really did, you would have been down there helping out their poor asses before this disaster.
on a side note, i saw some pics of the aftermath. All I can say is wow.
It looks like the earthquake caused lots of improvments
let the -reps flow
The man has a personal stake in whats going on there genius.
I never agreed with Iraq. I also don't agree with Afghanistan. America needs to mind it's own business right now and get OUR shit together. Is it a nice thing for America to help out Haiti? Yes, of course it is. Just silly in my opinion. That country has been a shithole forever, so if anyone truly cared about them, they would of been helped out a long time ago.Yes because there are absolutely no whites in Haiti.. I've seen at least 2 that are missing from the Atlanta area alone. It's funny how this whole "we have our own problems" sentiment jumps up now but Iraq is justified.
The man has a personal stake in whats going on there genius.
I wasnt speaking to you directly on Iraq, I should've separated that statement.
Yes because there are absolutely no whites in Haiti.. I've seen at least 2 that are missing from the Atlanta area alone. It's funny how this whole "we have our own problems" sentiment jumps up now but Iraq is justified.
The man has a personal stake in whats going on there genius.
Well Im sorry for his loss but I dont retract my previous statement. People seem to only seem to be concerned about 3rd wold countries after they get obliterated by natural disasters. Who on this site can honestly tell me they put foward a vallient effort to make Haiti a better place before this disaster? and the same goes with that big ass title wave a few years back. We like to pretend that we care and its bullshit and im tired of it. When katrina happened, Did Haiti give a flying fuck about us? No. And kudos to them. They didnt care before, and they arent shallow enough to pretend like they cared after it happened just so we will think "oh how nice are they"
To the OP. Im sorry for your loss, but it is wha it is.
That's not entirely true, Rob. There have been organizations trying to help people in Africa for decades. I can remember as far back as the 70s where they had people doing commercials saying, "for less than a quarter a day, you can help feed a child" and stuff like that. Later, QD.
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im not saying everybody, but the general public. Sally Struthers doesnt count. Were any of the poeple that have made threads about Haiti on import atlanta acutally in Haiti before this shit happened trying to help? No. Thats what im getting at. Most people only "care" after a disaster. But in all reality, that place has always been a disaster.
I just love how everyone imagines Haiti as being savages.
Why do you think Haiti is in such bad condition. Have you ever heard of the Revolution of Saint-Domingue? In 1791 Haitian slaves revolted and defeated the French & Napoleon, establishing itself as the only "successful" slave rebellion in modern history. If these men were white they would be celebrated as heroes, but because of their novelty, they instead faced exclusion and all other Western countries refused to trade with Haiti. Haiti was left in shambles, and only allowed to import good; those of us with a background in economics import with no export = pwned. Therefore, the and I repeat the, wealthiest colony in the Caribbean soon became the finest example of Western Capitalism. So, is it America's initial responsibility to help Haiti - not quite, but because our government does recognize the injustices done to this country, I find it fitting that aids be dispersed to a country that is not only close in location, but close in religion (Roman Catholic), and close in their diaspora search (people not inhabiting their original nation.)
I understand what you are saying here. The truth of the matter is though, you can not save every country in need. Our country is in a tremendous amount of debt. We are no longer in a position to be sending out all this help. It would be like if I was 100,000 in debt right now, and then a random homeless person asked me for a couple grand; I would look like an idiot to give him that, wouldn't I? America's government has a responsibility to it's tax payers, not to Haiti. Call it inhumane, or cruel, or whatever other term you can come up with, but that is the fact of the matter.
He thinks that, because it IS in that bad of condition. The entire country is poverty stricken, there is NO building code, it was ripe for disaster. That is WELL known throughout the world. Then you attempt to discredit his thoughts by reciting the history of Haiti. While that history is a rich and interesting history...it has NOTHING to do with what he was talking about. He was talking about the current state of affairs in Haiti, NOT their history. Everything he said was dead on the money. Your history basically has no bearing on what he said.
As for you teaching me the History of the Slave trade. Please, you may IM me and show me where I am incorrect as to the origin of it. I never once condoned it, or said it was right. You are correct, White Americans are reponsible for attrocities against the Black race for hundreds of years, I never once dis-credited that. Had you read what I said completely, you would have seen that. But just to help you out, here is what I said.
You see what I said there? I said that your own people STARTED it, then the Portugese CONTINUED it. I didn't say that some of our ancestors had nothing to do with it. They were simply oppurtunists. Was what they did horrible? Hell yea, it was. I don't agree with it one bit. What I stated is that nobody....and I mean nobody, blames your Ancestors for what they did or the Portugese for what they did. They just pin the blame on the White man.
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For my lifestyle, I have zero complaints, lolol. I couldn't be happier. Later, QD.
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In the end its just my own personal opinion. Just because I think differently then other people doesnt mean im going to try to push my opinion on them. Different people require different things to cater to their needs, and I feel that living where I do is preventing me from it. But if you guys are happy being here, thats all that matters. Its not about where is the best place to live, its where you can live that will make you the happiest.
That's what I was saying above. I disagree wholeheartedly with your stance on America, but you do have the right to feel/speak on it how you wish. And I respect that. Later, QD.
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Well Im sure that you have good reason to disagree with me in your 90 years of being here, and maybe when im pushing daisys ill see things differently. Im not ruling that out, but for now, i dont like how shit is going. We need to make changes, starting with getting rid of the federal reserve and income tax, both of which are complete BS and unconstitutional in my opinion.
That is in the constitution. 16th I believe.
A guy named Bill Benson, a few years back, went to every state capital for proof of each states ratification of the 16th. for an amendment to be ratified, 3/4 of the states need to vote yes. there were 48 states in 1913 when the amendment was on the table, and 11 of the states NEVER EVEN VOTED. Knowledge is power!!
Lolol.. I'm not that old! But I've always been happy, man. Later, QD.
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Friday evening I came home said hey to my dad dropped off my bags in my room and walked past his room again. When I pasted him the second time he said they found his body......!
Haiti or specifically Port-au-Prince is no different from any hood in America. We have on down sides but if you look hard enough you will find some good. For those of you that go strictly off of what you see on tv. GROW UP! We have beach resorts that would never make the news because the overall idea of Haiti being the poorest country makes a better head line story. When I went to Haiti I thought it was going to be like I saw and heard. But I went hoping for the best an that was an experience that I'll never forget.
For those of you that are angry because America is always helping other countries. Other countries is what makes America what it is...! I'm grateful to have been born in America. I appreciate those of you that took the time out. God Bless
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