Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
so he believes in something doesnt mean that it is
In his mind it is. Sometimes that's enough. For you it may or may not be, but for him it may very well be. In other words, that's HIS version of the truth. You can debate with him all you want but it just is.

but it does mean that things are going to be out of proportion, its like when you think back on things from the past they arent the same as what they truly are. they seem a certain way in your mind but are different in reality.

Sorry bud, but that's a lot of double talk. What are you trying to say? Are you saying that because something like the Bible was written way back when it somehow diminishes in value or content over time? Who's "reality" are we talking about here?

I'm sorry, but I didn't follow that at all.

i never said it was all of a sudden false now did i?
Well you didn't spell it out, but you certainly implied it IMO.


did i say there was one? i dont choose to not believe because of humans, i choose not to believe because i think there is no god, plain and simple
Your previous post you made it seem as if you were knocking back on Mr. Echo because he "believed" in something although it was "based on humans" as you put it. What did you mean then?

BTW, it's certainly your perrogative to not believe on whatever you feel like. It really is pretty simple if you wanna know the truth. If you lead a thirsty horse to water and he CHOOSES not to drink and die, that's on the horse not the handler. That's pretty much how religion IMO is. There are lots of "lakes" for you to drink from. If you CHOOSE to thirst to death, it's on you. Some of you guys (that don't believe in God period) I guess feel you can survive on your own w/o anything. That's fine, again your perrogative. There's really only ONE way to find out....YOU've placed your bet, as have I.