Originally Posted by geoff
I think you also might need to re-read what I wrote before. There really shouldn't be any question of where I get my viewpoint from, they are from what I perceive as real life. I will address this "a Godless nation where the moto is save the trees, kill the children".
Genesis 22:1-24 the story from the Bible in which God asks Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, on Mount Moriah when god was testing Abraham to see if he would actually kill his own son as a test of his loyalty. If you take your god at his word, and this falsely wise (if not jealous, wrathful, vindictive, hateful, obviously inhuman and down right vicious and evil) god obviously had no problem with ordering one of his own adhearents to kill his own son. Then why would you have such a problem with child killing? Your phony virtue and fake morality is meaningless to me...
A godless nation? I desire a godless world where this story holds no more weight than ones to be found in greek mythology, and next to it is exactly where the "Holy" Bible belongs. A god like this and the ignorance and hate his "wisdom" breeds in his believers are my enemy and whose ideas go against everything I know of right and wrong. Just rereading the "word of god" to place it here filled me with revulsion. And when it comes to your sacred imaginary character Jesus Christ.
For one it would take a far strech of the imagination to even believe that Christ even exisited at all, there is no evidence of his life outside of your bible even with all of his legendary accomplishments. His prophesied birth, his miraclous conception from a virgin, all of the miracles he performed, the life changing sermons he performed with his apostles to finally his ultimate masochistic act of allowing himself to be nailed to plank for our "sins". You would think someone of his time would have taken notice of all of these accomplishments, yet there is no mention of any of this from any scholars or historians of his time. We have records of other notable figures that are mentianed in the bible, but none of the individual the entire body of work is centered upon.
Even if Jesus was and somehow still (is) real, I just wish he would have asked us first before he went through with his cruxifiction. Because now I feel like I am being "billed for something I never ordered", or "being forced to pay for something that I already own". He killed himself for our "sins", for our human nature. And the message we are left with is if we do not give out lives over to him and his father we will roast in the fiery pits of hell for eternity, and I do not do very well existing under threats of punishment and damnation. Now there certainly is some wisdom to impart from his teachings, but definatly not enough for me to give my life over to him and call him my lord and master, I will sooner take a bullet straight through my skull than call ANYONE or ANYTHING my lord and master. No thank you Jesus but I am doing quite fine on my own.
If Jesus walked through my front door right now wearing TEVO sandles, dragging his bloodied cross and told me.
"I am here, I am real, give your life to me and follow my path, I will grant you joy and peace in this life and you will be in the house and kingdom of my father YAHWEH in the afterlife."
I would say
"Is your father home? Because THAT guy is a fucking asshole, and HIS house is the last place I want to go!"
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