Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post

I was around 8yr old when we was on a church trip back from mexico we had given all our money away to the kids pretty much and had just a few $ left.at the time i was like wow! u got to be kidding me this church stuff is going to get us stranded out here in the middle of no where lost.It was about 4-5 car's all travel together we have enough $ to get to the alabama line by the time we pulled up on (E) for the last fill up the pastor filled every 1 else up with the little money he had and then said lets see if god wil work for us. He pulled out duck tape from my dads old van"which was our work van also" he put tape over the empty gas hand and prayed then drove from the alabama line to out side athens ga on (E) ran out of gas as he was turning in to his house. U can say what ever you like about luck are whatever,But from that moment on i think my belief in god growed because luck would not have ever got him that far on (E) about 121miles
So you're sure beyond a reasonable and scientific doubt that you had just enough gas to get you guys back to church. That if you had shut God out of your life, you would have been stranded further back up the road? No possible way that could happen? Man, dude.

Now don't get me wrong. I can understand exactly where you're coming from. I know, to a religious person, the power of prayer is strong. And when you do pray as often as some folks do, they want to attribute any good fortune with God doing it. And that just reinforces the belief you have in God. The reality is you (or anyone) don't KNOW that God is real. Your belief is so strong that you FEEL He is real. I don't have any problems with people or their religion. It's all good to me.

But if a non-believer were to be in the same situation, it would just be that he was lucky enough to just have enough gas.

Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post
but i can say in my personal life i have prayed for things and g(GOD) has stepped out of no where and gave them to me ino that for a fact.
You can't KNOW that, homey. As I said in an earlier post about my homelessness. I didn't pray for help. I did it because I knew it had to be done. But I respect that that's what you fell or believe happened.

I don't mean this to be condescending at all, but if you feel like you have to have God as your way through life, then that's cool. To an extent, it doesn't matter how you survive. It's just that you do. Fro me, I put myself into my bad spots and I got myself out of them.


Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post
Q.D i respect the way u live and wish more ppl lived by those rules because this world would be a better place if they did not to mention the crime rate would go to 0 just from living by the 10 commandments.
I agree, dude. If we were to meet, you'd see that in me. What you see (online) is most definitely what you DON'T get (offline). I look forward to the day we meet up as we've been on here "knowing" each for a minute now. Later, QD.