New carry, plus AR question.

[Danny]

Picked up a Kahr CW9 as my new carry weapon and to hopfully serve as something the girlfriend can shoot and become better with.

The slide stop is a POS and the lower corner is very sharp. I am going to dehorn the slide stop and get that nice and sexy as I can see it potentially wearing through the skin on the top of the thumb pretty quickly when operating the slide stop. Slidestop on this model is MIM, so i will be looking to drop in a machined one, if i can find one.

The overall build quality of the gun is decent, pretty good for the price but you can tell its an entry level model to the Kahr brand. In regards to fit and finish; in particularly with how the bull barrel fits at the end of the slide, there is a gap towards the top (which may be required for the function of the gun, i am not familiar with them). Also on the business end of the pistol: where the dust cover surrounds the slide there is a gap, its not exactly centered. The mag well has some burs, but this may be from the previous owner. Should have a range review by the end of the weekend.

Here is some porn for everyone. AR question will be in second post.

[Danny]

Ok so i grabbed a couple goodies for the AR. Cheap parts kit, spare bolt, bolt carrier scrapper (yet to try it), and a TangoDown Battlegrip that doesnt fit.. WTF

Any idea why it wont fit. The grip is too thin where it should slide onto the receiver. Anyone have some opinions on this?

Couple worthless pictures. After working with the weapon the other weekend for a carbine class up at Creekside (absolutly a high value course btw) I decided I hate the houge grip (came with the weapon, expected i wouldnt like it). The houge grip really tied my fingers in knots while trying to manipulate the weapon. Also, I decided to move the vertical grip out as I think this will provide with better control-ability (i could be wrong, wont know till i try). As you will notice the rail cover is hanging off the end lol, this will be addressed.

Ill see if i can grab a photo of the grip problem area if needed.

[Truegiant]

Ok so i grabbed a couple goodies for the AR. Cheap parts kit, spare bolt, bolt carrier scrapper (yet to try it), and a TangoDown Battlegrip that doesnt fit.. WTF

Any idea why it wont fit. The grip is too thin where it should slide onto the receiver. Anyone have some opinions on this?

Couple worthless pictures. After working with the weapon the other weekend for a carbine class up at Creekside (absolutly a high value course btw) I decided I hate the houge grip (came with the weapon, expected i wouldnt like it). The houge grip really tied my fingers in knots while trying to manipulate the weapon. Also, I decided to move the vertical grip out as I think this will provide with better control-ability (i could be wrong, wont know till i try). As you will notice the rail cover is hanging off the end lol, this will be addressed.

Ill see if i can grab a photo of the grip problem area if needed.

Most of the grips need a bit of "grinding" to fit on the smith and wesson and LMT lowers from my experience. Just take a little rubber off on the inside. Do it in small increments as it needs to be snug. You can usually set it in the sun for an hour or so or put it on some aluminum foil in the oven on low temp and heat it up a little and it will become soft enough to slide on. Take a dremel and a sand paper roll and make sure the area where your trigger finger and middle finger hit the grip is smooth. It makes transitioning from engaging to "off trigger" mag changes easier and smoother. Those scrape tools are nice, overprices but nice. I cant tell from the pic if the rail cover has a lock on each end or just one. If its on each end just cut it in half. If not I think I have some extra ones laying around somewhere. I prefer the slimmer daniel defense rail covers to the plastic ones because when your doing any kind of shooting/training in the rain the weapon becomes slick real fast. Plus the plastic gets super hot in Iraqistan!

Shooting with the foregrip close opposed to far is really mission dependant from my experience. When I am in a MOUT environment I tend to keep the grip a little closer. If I am in an urban environment or am shooting from a rest I push it out a bit. Alot of people get to focused on how fast they can complete a mag change drill. Keeping the weapon at the ready, controlled, and on target is way more important than having a 1 second mag change. Also some food for thought is mag change drills from random positions. I can promise you that I can perform a mag change drill from a knee better than laying on the ground. Alot of people buy the double mag clips. The little plastic doo dads that hold two mags together to help with changes. The problem most people run into under stress is finding a place to put the double mags during a change drill/scenario. Alot of what I am saying is easier to train that type. I The best way to practice smooth transitions is with what we call a dimewasher drill. We use these to help with trigger squeeze and sight picture. To practice the smoothest of weapon steadyness (like that makes sense) take a bore sight rod or weapons cleaning rod and either put some tape or cloth and wedge it into the bore to where its snug. Then to practice trigger squeeze get in a good prone position and lay a dime on the end of the rod. Practice squeezing the trigger without the dime falling off. Its harder to do than you think. For mag change drills we would use larger washers and other various items. Its also a good way to practice moving while engaging a target.

Anywho.. I am tired and need some sleep!

[Danny]

OK i will go ahead and fit the grip, ill knock that out tomorrow or something.

Thanks for the tips.

Also, is there a way to make my safety selctor more 'snappy', right now it seems a tad mushy in the middle. Kind of like a porly fitted 1911 safety. Or is this not possible on the AR?

[DamnDisLaOsBoY]

that kahr is pretty badass! i was going to get me one but i didnt really get to research on them. The size and style is what caught my eye as a nice carry on as well. LMK how it shoots! also cw9= 9mm? is it a single stack mag? how many rounds does it hold? interested in the feed back on these.

[Danny]

Ya, shoots baby bullets 9mm

7 Round flush magazine, with an 8 rounds extended magazine. I plan on carrying a spare mag for a total of 16 rounds on my person, vs. the glock 27 where i only carried 10 rounds (double stack mag too thick to carry a spare). I need to find a nice thin leather mag pouch.

I have shot the kahr pm40 (the tiny one) and its a niceeee weapon. I really am diggin how skinny these guns are. On paper they are only like .3 inch thinner than a glock, but it makes a big difference.

John, got the grip fitted tongiht. Just wanted to make i was aloud to take files and sand paper to an AR15 grip and not break any "black rifle rules" or somthing haha. Thanks, i like the new grip... i think.

[DamnDisLaOsBoY]

yeh thats what i loved about the size. I like that holster you got for it. What kind is it? I also carry my glock 23c with a extra mag in a glock mag case for 26 rounds total. very light compared to the standard 23 IMO. My girlfriends Glock 26 weighs more with smaller and less rounds not to mention half the size.

[Truegiant]

Taking a file to get the grip to fit the weapon is way better than taking a file to make the weapon fit the grip!

What I always did was sand down and trim the fat between the two areas where the grip and weapon meet. Then I would take a 1/2" or larger drill bit and on slow speed drill little dimples in the grip material so that it wasnt smooth rubber! If you make shallow golf ball size dimples in it , it will help when your hands get sweaty and isnt as harsh on the hands as some checkering is.

I gotta start billing you by the post when you ask all these questions! HAHA!

Anywho.. Your tangodown grip is the one that has the storage compartment underneath right? I have never been a huge fan of those kind. I cracked one and never bought another. I usually just file down the hogues or put the cloth type grip tape on both the front and rear grips. Function over form on almost all the carbine forums. Alot of people like there tools to be clean and fancy. I care a little more about my 1911's than my carbines. I have gotten more dirt and grime in my ar's than I am sure anyone would care to.

[DamnDisLaOsBoY]

[QUOTE=Truegiant;38405032]Taking a file to get the grip to fit the weapon is way better than taking a file to make the weapon fit the grip!

What I always did was sand down and trim the fat between the two areas where the grip and weapon meet. Then I would take a 1/2" or larger drill bit and on slow speed drill little dimples in the grip material so that it wasnt smooth rubber! If you make shallow golf ball size dimples in it , it will help when your hands get sweaty and isnt as harsh on the hands as some checkering is.

Do you have any pics of your work? would like to see some.

[DamnDisLaOsBoY]

Taking a file to get the grip to fit the weapon is way better than taking a file to make the weapon fit the grip!

What I always did was sand down and trim the fat between the two areas where the grip and weapon meet. Then I would take a 1/2" or larger drill bit and on slow speed drill little dimples in the grip material so that it wasnt smooth rubber! If you make shallow golf ball size dimples in it , it will help when your hands get sweaty and isnt as harsh on the hands as some checkering is.

ooops.. do you have any pics??

[Danny]

Taking a file to get the grip to fit the weapon is way better than taking a file to make the weapon fit the grip!

What I always did was sand down and trim the fat between the two areas where the grip and weapon meet. Then I would take a 1/2" or larger drill bit and on slow speed drill little dimples in the grip material so that it wasnt smooth rubber! If you make shallow golf ball size dimples in it , it will help when your hands get sweaty and isnt as harsh on the hands as some checkering is.

I gotta start billing you by the post when you ask all these questions! HAHA!

Anywho.. Your tangodown grip is the one that has the storage compartment underneath right? I have never been a huge fan of those kind. I cracked one and never bought another. I usually just file down the hogues or put the cloth type grip tape on both the front and rear grips. Function over form on almost all the carbine forums. Alot of people like there tools to be clean and fancy. I care a little more about my 1911's than my carbines. I have gotten more dirt and grime in my ar's than I am sure anyone would care to.

i may try that.

The grip has two round storage compartments, so in comparison to the houge it has a nice beafy support running down the center.

It seems to be built well, time will tell i guess. And yes it needs some grip tape or texturing on the front strap.

[Truegiant]

i may try that.

The grip has two round storage compartments, so in comparison to the houge it has a nice beafy support running down the center.

It seems to be built well, time will tell i guess. And yes it needs some grip tape or texturing on the front strap.

I will look and see what I can find. Thanks

[Danny]

I will look and see what I can find. Thanks

Look for what? lol

[Truegiant]

the other guy wanted to see some pics of some grips i modded i guess? I told him i would post a pic if i could find one. I still cant find my damn camera and I have two grips sitting in front of me. That black baseball bat grip tape works wonders. I get mine from play it again sports here locally and its like $1 a roll. FYI

[Danny]

the other guy wanted to see some pics of some grips i modded i guess? I told him i would post a pic if i could find one. I still cant find my damn camera and I have two grips sitting in front of me. That black baseball bat grip tape works wonders. I get mine from play it again sports here locally and its like $1 a roll. FYI

Ahh cool, thats what i get for not reading the whole thread haha.

Ya, 3m stair tape is awesome too! Thats whats on my 1911.

[Truegiant]

I dont like the sandpaper type grip tape like the stair tape on my carbines because after shooting so many rounds the gritty material gets in your gloves and if you ever wipe the sweat off your face or pick something else up it gets that crap everywhere.

Anywho.. I am going to try and get some sleep tonight. I have early work/inspections/and then hopefully in teh evening i got a guy coming to pick up my suzuki! YAY.. SELL a couple of more items and then its back to another gun project.