rifle for deer/wild boar

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Dude you are an idiot, use a bigger gun you will be thinking me later ahahah dumbest shit ive ever heard, any caliber gun with good shot placement will drop anything. Ive spotlighted deer with a .22 and used shorts that dont make sound and are only about as powerful as a pelet gun and dropped deer

And 1200 dollars scope sure as hell does not help that the only thing a more expensive scope does is pick up more light and not fog up.

Also to the hogs being big in ga, yes there are some big hogs in georgia in farms that are fed or on property that is managed for hogs but for the most part none of the them get over a 150 pounds.

I'm going to touch base on a few points from you and the other dumbass that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground either.

The reason I suggested a nice expensive scope to go "with", KEY WORD "WITH" the 300 mag is because the optical componants on the more expensive scopes can take the recoil of the 300 mag 10x's better than a $300 scope. Shoot a .300 mag with a cheap scope and you'll be replacing it every year with a new scope. I along with many people i've hunted with have all been down that road and learned our lesson. I've seen a brand new scope get fucked after one shot with a .300 mag.

You're also WRONG saying a more expensive scope picks up more light and won't fog. The larger the mm lens, the more light it absorbs. A 40-44mm lens scope can be expensive, but that doesn't have anything to do with the light it absorbs. A 50mm lens scope will draw in more light, retard and can cost less depending on who makes it. Again, quality. Any scope can have anti-fog lenses. Or you can just go buy the same shit divers use to spray on their goggles to keep them from fogging.

Neither of you would know this because all you do is shoot squirrels with your BB gun in daddys back yard.

I clearly stated a .270 or .30-06 would work for GA hunting, but if they want an all around gun that can hunt out west or anywhere in N. America for that matter, the .300 mag is better suited and a better all around caliber. You can shoot deer, black bear, boar, grizzly bear, brown bear, moose, mule deer, bighorn sheep, elk, etc... All at much greater distances than your .270 and with a hell of a lot more stopping power. I'd like to see you 20 yrds from a grizzly and shoot it with a .270.

Buy once, buy smart! I learned that lesson the hard way, but thankfully a very old wise man knocked some sense into me after I kept blowing money on different guns when I was younger. There are different grain bullets for different body size animal and the .300 offers a nice range.


Now, as far as making a kill shot in the heart and it dropping the animal on the spot. WRONG. Can it, yes. Very rarely. A spine shot or head shot will drop it in it's tracks, BUT a vital organ shot doesn't normally drop it immediately. They normally run on a heart shot or lung shot. Lung shots normally they run less because the lungs fill up with blood and the body doesn't get the oxygen to feed the muscles to keep running.

I've seen a friend shoot a Russian boar in the head with a .270 and it blew half of the top of it's head OFF. HALF the brain was missing. Guess what, we tracked that hog into the swamp and lost it. One week later he was hunting the same stand and half brains walks out to feed in the food plot again. He shot it in the lungs the second time, it ran 120 yrds, and we could not believe what we were seeing when we found it. That hog lived over a week in the swamp with half of it's brains blown off. They are tough, mean mother fuckers.

The 1st deer I ever shot in GA was a 180lbs doe in Hancock county and I shot it through the shoulder, it went through the lungs, heart, and back out through the leg on the other side. The deer fell straight down to the ground and pushed itself with only it's hind legs for over 80 yards. When I gutted it, the heart was MUSH in pieces, one lung was fucked, and both front legs were broken. This was with a .30-06 and a perfectly placed heart shot.

I actually bow hunt a lot now and I shoot for the lungs. I would say 10% of the time the animal doesn't know what just happened and i've had them actually keep feeding and topple over after a minute or two. The other 90 percent run less than 70 yrds on a lung shot. I would say most run 40 yrds with a bow and lung shot. My bow shoots 312 fps with muzzy 90 gr heads.

Nobody said you couldn't shoot a deer with a .22 dipshit. If you dropped it in it's tracks with a .22, you got fuckin lucky as shit and had a rabbits foot in your both spockets, a horseshoe necklace, and a 4 leaf clover shoved up your ass. You sure as fuck didn't shoot it in the heart with a .22 and drop it you wet behind the ears pimple poppin fuckstick. Nice to know you were illegally spot lighting too. That just shows what a fucktard we already knew you were.

The "wild feral" hogs in GA get upwards of 300-400lbs for the larger bodied hogs that are rarely seen. Yes, average would be around 80-120lbs, but the records that were shot over a year ago that I mentioned were WILD HOGS. They had short snouts and that is only found with wild hogs. Farm raised hogs have long snouts. The bigger a hog gets, the less you will see it. They are smart and stay in thick areas they know nobody will fuck with them. If you knew anything about hunting, you would know that.

Now, come back and tell me how I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about since I've been hunting for over 20 years and I didn't start until I was 10 years old. You do the math genious.

Go do some research before either of you pop off again with useless banter and shitty info. Dumbass kids hunting deer with .22's.

[allmotoronly]

I'm going to touch base on a few points from you and the other dumbass that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground either.

The reason I suggested a nice expensive scope to go "with", KEY WORD "WITH" the 300 mag is because the optical componants on the more expensive scopes can take the recoil of the 300 mag 10x's better than a $300 scope. Shoot a .300 mag with a cheap scope and you'll be replacing it every year with a new scope. I along with many people i've hunted with have all been down that road and learned our lesson. I've seen a brand new scope get fucked after one shot with a .300 mag.

You're also WRONG saying a more expensive scope picks up more light and won't fog. The larger the mm lens, the more light it absorbs. A 40-44mm lens scope can be expensive, but that doesn't have anything to do with the light it absorbs. A 50mm lens scope will draw in more light, retard and can cost less depending on who makes it. Again, quality. Any scope can have anti-fog lenses. Or you can just go buy the same shit divers use to spray on their goggles to keep them from fogging.

Neither of you would know this because all you do is shoot squirrels with your BB gun in daddys back yard.

I clearly stated a .270 or .30-06 would work for GA hunting, but if they want an all around gun that can hunt out west or anywhere in N. America for that matter, the .300 mag is better suited and a better all around caliber. You can shoot deer, black bear, boar, grizzly bear, brown bear, moose, mule deer, bighorn sheep, elk, etc... All at much greater distances than your .270 and with a hell of a lot more stopping power. I'd like to see you 20 yrds from a grizzly and shoot it with a .270.

Buy once, buy smart! I learned that lesson the hard way, but thankfully a very old wise man knocked some sense into me after I kept blowing money on different guns when I was younger. There are different grain bullets for different body size animal and the .300 offers a nice range.


Now, as far as making a kill shot in the heart and it dropping the animal on the spot. WRONG. Can it, yes. Very rarely. A spine shot or head shot will drop it in it's tracks, BUT a vital organ shot doesn't normally drop it immediately. They normally run on a heart shot or lung shot. Lung shots normally they run less because the lungs fill up with blood and the body doesn't get the oxygen to feed the muscles to keep running.

I've seen a friend shoot a Russian boar in the head with a .270 and it blew half of the top of it's head OFF. HALF the brain was missing. Guess what, we tracked that hog into the swamp and lost it. One week later he was hunting the same stand and half brains walks out to feed in the food plot again. He shot it in the lungs the second time, it ran 120 yrds, and we could not believe what we were seeing when we found it. That hog lived over a week in the swamp with half of it's brains blown off. They are tough, mean mother fuckers.

The 1st deer I ever shot in GA was a 180lbs doe in Hancock county and I shot it through the shoulder, it went through the lungs, heart, and back out through the leg on the other side. The deer fell straight down to the ground and pushed itself with only it's hind legs for over 80 yards. When I gutted it, the heart was MUSH in pieces, one lung was fucked, and both front legs were broken. This was with a .30-06 and a perfectly placed heart shot.

I actually bow hunt a lot now and I shoot for the lungs. I would say 10% of the time the animal doesn't know what just happened and i've had them actually keep feeding and topple over after a minute or two. The other 90 percent run less than 70 yrds on a lung shot. I would say most run 40 yrds with a bow and lung shot. My bow shoots 312 fps with muzzy 90 gr heads.

Nobody said you couldn't shoot a deer with a .22 dipshit. If you dropped it in it's tracks with a .22, you got fuckin lucky as shit and had a rabbits foot in your both spockets, a horseshoe necklace, and a 4 leaf clover shoved up your ass. You sure as fuck didn't shoot it in the heart with a .22 and drop it you wet behind the ears pimple poppin fuckstick. Nice to know you were illegally spot lighting too. That just shows what a fucktard we already knew you were.

The "wild feral" hogs in GA get upwards of 300-400lbs for the larger bodied hogs that are rarely seen. Yes, average would be around 80-120lbs, but the records that were shot over a year ago that I mentioned were WILD HOGS. They had short snouts and that is only found with wild hogs. Farm raised hogs have long snouts. The bigger a hog gets, the less you will see it. They are smart and stay in thick areas they know nobody will fuck with them. If you knew anything about hunting, you would know that.

Now, come back and tell me how I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about since I've been hunting for over 20 years and I didn't start until I was 10 years old. You do the math genious.

Go do some research before either of you pop off again with useless banter and shitty info. Dumbass kids hunting deer with .22's.

Not to mention that it is illegal to hunt large game in GA with rimfire rifles...

[Jaimecbr900]

The reason I suggested a nice expensive scope to go "with", KEY WORD "WITH" the 300 mag is because the optical componants on the more expensive scopes can take the recoil of the 300 mag 10x's better than a $300 scope. Shoot a .300 mag with a cheap scope and you'll be replacing it every year with a new scope. I along with many people i've hunted with have all been down that road and learned our lesson. I've seen a brand new scope get fucked after one shot with a .300 mag.

#1. This is not my fight since you didn't single me out, but I have to make a reply to your post.

#2. The OP asked a very simple question, which you have complicated for some reason. He asked what would be a good rifle for deer/boar. He didn't ask what would be the best rifle to go on Safari in Africa with. He obviously is NEW to hunting, otherwise he would not have asked that kind of question. As such, he is unlikely to have budgeted $2000 for a rifle/scope combo, don't you think?

#3. A 300 mag is indeed OVERKILL for both deer, boar, and beginner. You have 20 yrs "experience", so it may work for you. The OP is a beginner, therefore my statement still stands. IN GEORGIA for 99% of hunted DEER and BOAR, a simple 270 or 30-06 is a very good choice IMO. Ammo, accessories, and general handling of a 300 mag is far MORE than with the other two calibers, which IMO is what a "beginner" needs.

You're also WRONG saying a more expensive scope picks up more light and won't fog. The larger the mm lens, the more light it absorbs. A 40-44mm lens scope can be expensive, but that doesn't have anything to do with the light it absorbs. A 50mm lens scope will draw in more light, retard and can cost less depending on who makes it. Again, quality. Any scope can have anti-fog lenses. Or you can just go buy the same shit divers use to spray on their goggles to keep them from fogging.

I think you are confusing two different subjects here. The size of the scope does indeed correlate to it's ability to absorb light. You are arguing about cost and quality instead of light. A 50mm scope will indeed absorb MORE light than a 44mm the majority of the time REGARDLESS of cost. Which one will last longer or on top of a 300 mag???? That's another subject all together. But side-by-side, the 50 mm will usually absorb more light than a 44mm. The cost and quality is another subject all together. Again, I highly doubt the OP has the need for a $1200 scope for his first "deer" rifle. He's not a SWAT sniper, right?

I clearly stated a .270 or .30-06 would work for GA hunting, but if they want an all around gun that can hunt out west or anywhere in N. America for that matter, the .300 mag is better suited and a better all around caliber. You can shoot deer, black bear, boar, grizzly bear, brown bear, moose, mule deer, bighorn sheep, elk, etc... All at much greater distances than your .270 and with a hell of a lot more stopping power. I'd like to see you 20 yrds from a grizzly and shoot it with a .270.

Again, the OP DIDN'T ask what he needed to shoot out West nor the plains of Africa. Just how many grizzlies do you think he'll see sitting in a tree stand in Palmetto, GA????? None. Again, you are possibly correct in your statement, just the wrong thread.

Buy once, buy smart! I learned that lesson the hard way, but thankfully a very old wise man knocked some sense into me after I kept blowing money on different guns when I was younger. There are different grain bullets for different body size animal and the .300 offers a nice range.

True, but so does the 270, 30-06, and even the 308. They also do it for cheaper than the 300 mag.

Now, as far as making a kill shot in the heart and it dropping the animal on the spot. WRONG. Can it, yes. Very rarely. A spine shot or head shot will drop it in it's tracks, BUT a vital organ shot doesn't normally drop it immediately. They normally run on a heart shot or lung shot. Lung shots normally they run less because the lungs fill up with blood and the body doesn't get the oxygen to feed the muscles to keep running.

You're splitting hairs here. No matter how much you want to deny it, IF you shoot a deer, boar, ANY animal in the right spot.....it's going down. Haven't you ever seen a pig be shot between the eyes with a .22 just before it's butchered? I have. They neither run nor live. They die. So it's not always a function of big bullets at ultra sonic speeds that magically transforms into a "kill". Bullet placement trumps all that 9 out of 10 times. Far too often, hunters......i.e. usually MEN.....i.e. we all have tender egos most of the time......want to blame the GUN on THEIR bad shot placement when they hit a deer and it runs for a long distance or even miss all together.

I've seen a friend shoot a Russian boar in the head with a .270 and it blew half of the top of it's head OFF. HALF the brain was missing. Guess what, we tracked that hog into the swamp and lost it. One week later he was hunting the same stand and half brains walks out to feed in the food plot again. He shot it in the lungs the second time, it ran 120 yrds, and we could not believe what we were seeing when we found it. That hog lived over a week in the swamp with half of it's brains blown off. They are tough, mean mother fuckers.

Yall got some deep pockets because the only places to be able to even shoot a Russian boar in North America are pretty hunting clubs in other states.

I'm not saying that weird things don't happen, but I'm sorry......I gotta call BS on your half brain still walking around like nothing is wrong boar story. IF half any animals brain is shot off, at the very least they'd bleed out, nevermind that the brain is where motor functions such as walking and breathing are controlled. Just doesn't make sense to me. Again, weird things can and do happen, but your story just doesn't sound plausibe at all. Maybe you should call Mythbusters to prove it and then Guiness to get in the books. Sorry, I don't buy it.

The 1st deer I ever shot in GA was a 180lbs doe in Hancock county and I shot it through the shoulder, it went through the lungs, heart, and back out through the leg on the other side. The deer fell straight down to the ground and pushed itself with only it's hind legs for over 80 yards. When I gutted it, the heart was MUSH in pieces, one lung was fucked, and both front legs were broken. This was with a .30-06 and a perfectly placed heart shot.

Umm, did you somehow KNOW it was gonna go to the heart AFTER it went through the shoulder? Because that's not where the heart on a deer is. The only way you would know that is IF you're shooting from high above at a very steep angle. IF that was your angle, then it's possible. But if you were on the ground or the deer was giving you the optimal full side profile, then you DIDN'T make a "perfectly placed heart shot" IF you shot it through the shoulder FIRST. That's an oxymoron.....perfectly placed HEART shot through the SHOULDER (unless you were high above it and planned on shooting the shoulder to get to the heart because that's the only profile the deer was showing you).

The "wild feral" hogs in GA get upwards of 300-400lbs for the larger bodied hogs that are rarely seen. Yes, average would be around 80-120lbs, but the records that were shot over a year ago that I mentioned were WILD HOGS. They had short snouts and that is only found with wild hogs. Farm raised hogs have long snouts. The bigger a hog gets, the less you will see it. They are smart and stay in thick areas they know nobody will fuck with them. If you knew anything about hunting, you would know that.

Which is exactly why the OP doesn't need a bazooka to kill what he WILL see if he ever encounters a wild boar in the GA woods.

Yes, there are "Hogzillas" out there, and they are in GA. No argument there. But you yourself said you won't ever see them, so why buy an expensive gun and scope for something you'll "never see"?






Look, I'm not trying to make this thread into some kind of pissing contest. I just know from experience that far too often people go out and buy the biggest baddest wolf of a gun just to support incorrect information. There are lots of variables in Hunting. If I were to go on a Safari in Africa to hunt Elephants, then dur dur, I wouldn't take my 30-06. But the fact is that I'm not hunting in Africa for Elephants.....I'm hunting in GA for Deer. Therefore, WHY would I take an Elephant gun to a Deer fight? To stroke my ego? To be louder than my hunting buddies?

I'll put it to you this way: The absolute BEST hunter that I personally know hunts 90% of the time in GEORGIA with a simple bolt action 270. He kills and fills every one of his deer and hog tags every single year. He hasn't bought meat at a grocery store in the almost 20+ yrs that I've known him. Matter of fact, I have some deer sausage and tenderloins in my freezer right now from him. Point is? If it's perfectly suitable and working for the BEST hunter that I know.......why would I go out and try to re-invent the wheel? Shot placement and bullet selection will play a bigger role in dropping a deer than will caliber, when all other things are held equal (in Georgia).

Anyway, that's my long , but it is strictly my opinion.

[marc423]

hey jamie...I'M BACK BITCH HA! even though you're a fairy, you make good points (although you merely elaborated on points that were previously established). the fact that you basically agree with the ekcivic prodigy and I must make you somewhat rational (although you weren't rational enough to stay in the closet). man I'll tell you something...it took some balls to ban me, you know being the bigger man and all. hahaha just kiddin...ya fuckin pop tart.

oh and w/e your name is you old hillbilly fuck...let me make this clear to everyone. You're the dooshe that will cut out poster board copies of a rifle and put it your gun closet to make you feel better about yourself. Not only will you make up elaborate and far-fetched stories about how great of a hunter you are...you will try to defend your argument with negligible bullshit that only makes you sound like you knew what you were talking about initially.

this is you

this is jamie (the fanny bandit)

this is the froot loop packin your fudge while you're talkin about wrestling a wild antelope :idb:

#1. This is not my fight since you didn't single me out, but I have to make a reply to your post.

#2. The OP asked a very simple question, which you have complicated for some reason. He asked what would be a good rifle for deer/boar. He didn't ask what would be the best rifle to go on Safari in Africa with. He obviously is NEW to hunting, otherwise he would not have asked that kind of question. As such, he is unlikely to have budgeted $2000 for a rifle/scope combo, don't you think?

#3. A 300 mag is indeed OVERKILL for both deer, boar, and beginner. You have 20 yrs "experience", so it may work for you. The OP is a beginner, therefore my statement still stands. IN GEORGIA for 99% of hunted DEER and BOAR, a simple 270 or 30-06 is a very good choice IMO. Ammo, accessories, and general handling of a 300 mag is far MORE than with the other two calibers, which IMO is what a "beginner" needs.



I think you are confusing two different subjects here. The size of the scope does indeed correlate to it's ability to absorb light. You are arguing about cost and quality instead of light. A 50mm scope will indeed absorb MORE light than a 44mm the majority of the time REGARDLESS of cost. Which one will last longer or on top of a 300 mag???? That's another subject all together. But side-by-side, the 50 mm will usually absorb more light than a 44mm. The cost and quality is another subject all together. Again, I highly doubt the OP has the need for a $1200 scope for his first "deer" rifle. He's not a SWAT sniper, right?




Again, the OP DIDN'T ask what he needed to shoot out West nor the plains of Africa. Just how many grizzlies do you think he'll see sitting in a tree stand in Palmetto, GA????? None. Again, you are possibly correct in your statement, just the wrong thread.



True, but so does the 270, 30-06, and even the 308. They also do it for cheaper than the 300 mag.




You're splitting hairs here. No matter how much you want to deny it, IF you shoot a deer, boar, ANY animal in the right spot.....it's going down. Haven't you ever seen a pig be shot between the eyes with a .22 just before it's butchered? I have. They neither run nor live. They die. So it's not always a function of big bullets at ultra sonic speeds that magically transforms into a "kill". Bullet placement trumps all that 9 out of 10 times. Far too often, hunters......i.e. usually MEN.....i.e. we all have tender egos most of the time......want to blame the GUN on THEIR bad shot placement when they hit a deer and it runs for a long distance or even miss all together.



Yall got some deep pockets because the only places to be able to even shoot a Russian boar in North America are pretty hunting clubs in other states.

I'm not saying that weird things don't happen, but I'm sorry......I gotta call BS on your half brain still walking around like nothing is wrong boar story. IF half any animals brain is shot off, at the very least they'd bleed out, nevermind that the brain is where motor functions such as walking and breathing are controlled. Just doesn't make sense to me. Again, weird things can and do happen, but your story just doesn't sound plausibe at all. Maybe you should call Mythbusters to prove it and then Guiness to get in the books. Sorry, I don't buy it.



Umm, did you somehow KNOW it was gonna go to the heart AFTER it went through the shoulder? Because that's not where the heart on a deer is. The only way you would know that is IF you're shooting from high above at a very steep angle. IF that was your angle, then it's possible. But if you were on the ground or the deer was giving you the optimal full side profile, then you DIDN'T make a "perfectly placed heart shot" IF you shot it through the shoulder FIRST. That's an oxymoron.....perfectly placed HEART shot through the SHOULDER (unless you were high above it and planned on shooting the shoulder to get to the heart because that's the only profile the deer was showing you).




Which is exactly why the OP doesn't need a bazooka to kill what he WILL see if he ever encounters a wild boar in the GA woods.

Yes, there are "Hogzillas" out there, and they are in GA. No argument there. But you yourself said you won't ever see them, so why buy an expensive gun and scope for something you'll "never see"?






Look, I'm not trying to make this thread into some kind of pissing contest. I just know from experience that far too often people go out and buy the biggest baddest wolf of a gun just to support incorrect information. There are lots of variables in Hunting. If I were to go on a Safari in Africa to hunt Elephants, then dur dur, I wouldn't take my 30-06. But the fact is that I'm not hunting in Africa for Elephants.....I'm hunting in GA for Deer. Therefore, WHY would I take an Elephant gun to a Deer fight? To stroke my ego? To be louder than my hunting buddies?

I'll put it to you this way: The absolute BEST hunter that I personally know hunts 90% of the time in GEORGIA with a simple bolt action 270. He kills and fills every one of his deer and hog tags every single year. He hasn't bought meat at a grocery store in the almost 20+ yrs that I've known him. Matter of fact, I have some deer sausage and tenderloins in my freezer right now from him. Point is? If it's perfectly suitable and working for the BEST hunter that I know.......why would I go out and try to re-invent the wheel? Shot placement and bullet selection will play a bigger role in dropping a deer than will caliber, when all other things are held equal (in Georgia).

Anyway, that's my long , but it is strictly my opinion.

[marc423]

ban me again elton john...it was worth it

[Jaimecbr900]

Stay out of this thread hot shot. Your mouth is writting checks your butt can't cash. Trust me on that one.

This isn't the WL where you can say and do whatever you want. If want to start something with me, go for it......just not in here. You're polluting an otherwise productive thread.

And as for banning???? Next time it will be a perma IP ban. Wanna keep up with your crying? Go find you a bigger crying towel because you are filling up the one you got now.

[Truegiant]

Stay out of this thread hot shot. Your mouth is writting checks your butt can't cash. Trust me on that one.

This isn't the WL where you can say and do whatever you want. If want to start something with me, go for it......just not in here. You're polluting an otherwise productive thread.

And as for banning???? Next time it will be a perma IP ban. Wanna keep up with your crying? Go find you a bigger crying towel because you are filling up the one you got now.

x2.. lets not turn this in to the WL.

[Lurker]

Jaime, I'll try to swing by Sams next week. Hopefully your there and we can share some stories.

hey jamie...I'M BACK BITCH HA! even though you're a fairy, you make good points (although you merely elaborated on points that were previously established). the fact that you basically agree with the ekcivic prodigy and I must make you somewhat rational (although you weren't rational enough to stay in the closet). man I'll tell you something...it took some balls to ban me, you know being the bigger man and all. hahaha just kiddin...ya fuckin pop tart.

oh and w/e your name is you old hillbilly fuck...let me make this clear to everyone. You're the dooshe that will cut out poster board copies of a rifle and put it your gun closet to make you feel better about yourself. Not only will you make up elaborate and far-fetched stories about how great of a hunter you are...you will try to defend your argument with negligible bullshit that only makes you sound like you knew what you were talking about initially.

this is you

this is jamie (the fanny bandit)

this is the froot loop packin your fudge while you're talkin about wrestling a wild antelope :idb:

Says the 19 year old who illegally spot lights deer with a .22. Moron!

I hunt all over the country and I could care less if you believe anything I say. You're young, dumb, and a know it all who should keep his mouth shut and listen more.

Keep plinkin robins with your bb gun in your dad's back yard junior. You've probably never even seen a wild animal anyways and by wild I don't mean your cat who escaped for a week and left a dead bird on you front porch as an offering.

I've got some fishing stories to tell also, but hey, the fish are always big no matter who's telling the story.