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    with no one feeling pain and sorrow and only happiness how could we be desensitized? living in a perfect world would be just that...perfect. i think we have been desensitized because of all the wikedness of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff
    with no one feeling pain and sorrow and only happiness how could we be desensitized? living in a perfect world would be just that...perfect. i think we have been desensitized because of all the wikedness of people.
    I think what he was trying to say... How can you have Dr. Jekyll without Mr. Hyde? Without the lows you experience in life how could you truly appreciate the highs? Take Hollywood for example. They have (basically) everything we want... Fame, money and influence. Yet how many are strung out on drugs, alcohol ect? Now don't get me wrong, I believe in Heaven. Hope to see you there, but if everything is "perfect" I'm not sure imperfect beings as ourselves could cope.

    Now I'm not sure what Heaven is, but a world where there are no questions only answers does not personally interest me. The purpose of the human spirit is to learn, what happens in a "perfect" world where there is nothing else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova
    I think what he was trying to say... How can you have Dr. Jekyll without Mr. Hyde? Without the lows you experience in life how could you truly appreciate the highs? Take Hollywood for example. They have (basically) everything we want... Fame, money and influence. Yet how many are strung out on drugs, alcohol ect? Now don't get me wrong, I believe in Heaven. Hope to see you there, but if everything is "perfect" I'm not sure imperfect beings as ourselves could cope.

    Now I'm not sure what Heaven is, but a world where there are no questions only answers does not personally interest me. The purpose of the human spirit is to learn, what happens in a "perfect" world where there is nothing else?

    thats the perfect explanation. beautifully poetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff
    with no one feeling pain and sorrow and only happiness how could we be desensitized? living in a perfect world would be just that...perfect. i think we have been desensitized because of all the wikedness of people.

    ok look at it this way, economically its known as the law of diminishing returns.

    If are starving, and you are sitting at a table stocked up to the brim with the most delicious foods, since you are starving every piece of food looks so undeniably delicious, so savory, so juicy, tasty, succulent, and then you dig in. As you take your first bite, your mind recognizes that the need to feed has been achieved and you are filled with joy, if you have ever starved you would know the feeling. You eat to live, and you are programmed to keep living, its instinct, its the definition of life itself. You are initially overfilled with happiness as you eat, and as you continue eating as you begin to get full each bite begins to taste just a bit not as good as the last, and this process keeps going until you can eat no more. Which then is followed by a feeling of satisfaction. You are than at one point no longer in need of food, you were starving, a negative physical state that correlates with several negative emotional states, the fulfillment of your desire to eat brings to you happiness, at one point this desire and need is fulfilled, you are satisfied, you revel in your happiness, and now since you cant keep eating you have to move on. Find something else that will fulfill your desires, and bring onto you happiness.

    In heaven, since its so perfect, you would never feel hunger, so you would never need to eat, you would never need money so you would never need to work, you would never feel boredom so you would never even have to do anything, you could if you wanted to but why, the negative emotional state that is boredom isnt there, its heaven its perfect. You would just float around gleefully with your family with not a care in the world, there is nothing to distress you, nothing to bring you harm, nothing at all can happen to you, eternally.

    Oh dont forget, all the good people that have been dying since Christ are there too, a whole load of em, numbers can not even measure, and since heaven is eternal its seen its fair share of repetitions of earth. So yeah heaven is overcrowded a bit too, and if not that means it stretches on forever as well, truly eternal. Which means theres no where to go either.

    I dont know about you, but to me, that sounds a lot like hell.

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