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  1. 07-01-2009, 09:18 PM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    muscle memory is for drawl stroke, including pushing out to the target (and being on target each time).



    eyes on front sight after PID is established. when searching your eyes are scanning looking for a thread, once PID is made then eyes go to front sight.



    There is a delicate balance between distance and quality of aiming. Alot of cqb is front sight only type thing. as your distance gets closer, the less precise of aiming you have to do. But for someone to tell you not to use your sights in a engagement under 15yards is insane to me. And remember with 90% accuracy you killing 10 innocent babies for every 90 badguys you kill. As a civilian thats not acceptable. I train to hit close to 100% as possible, as fast as possible.

    my underlying point here is not using your sights when less than 15 yards is not a fair assumption imo.
    yeh i feel you. i totally need to step up my aiming and distance game but i just thought it was a cool method to know. i personally would not use it everytime but it would be good for a face to face situation or certain different scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnDisLaOsBoY
    yeh i feel you. i totally need to step up my aiming and distance game but i just thought it was a cool method to know. i personally would not use it everytime but it would be good for a face to face situation or certain different scenarios.

    a drill i like that may interest you is shooting soon as you are extended and on target (zero delay). These are aimed shots, that train you to pick up the sights fast and muscle memory to present the weapon the same way each time. this eliminates the "time to aim" argument, and also practices safe gun handling by aiming what your shooting at.

    that may be the solution your looking for?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    a drill i like that may interest you is shooting soon as you are extended and on target (zero delay). These are aimed shots, that train you to pick up the sights fast and muscle memory to present the weapon the same way each time. this eliminates the "time to aim" argument, and also practices safe gun handling by aiming what your shooting at.

    that may be the solution your looking for?!?!
    The best way to practice this drill is with standard sights and not night sights or any form of tridium sight. It really gets you to practice muscle memory because you dont have that nice pretty front white dot to stair at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truegiant
    The best way to practice this drill is with standard sights and not night sights or any form of tridium sight. It really gets you to practice muscle memory because you dont have that nice pretty front white dot to stair at.

    i like that

    *paints sights black*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    i like that

    *paints sights black*
    dry erase marker. so you can make them white again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    a drill i like that may interest you is shooting soon as you are extended and on target (zero delay). These are aimed shots, that train you to pick up the sights fast and muscle memory to present the weapon the same way each time. this eliminates the "time to aim" argument, and also practices safe gun handling by aiming what your shooting at.

    that may be the solution your looking for?!?!
    sounds great. i love learning different tactics. we should schedule a range meet!!! i still got alot of range time to put in.

    lol btw true giant. i am going to savannah july 16-19. i saw u teach classes down there. If i have time i would love to stop by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnDisLaOsBoY
    sounds great. i love learning different tactics. we should schedule a range meet.i still got alot of range time to put in.

    lol btw true giant. i am going to savannah july 16-19. i saw u teach classes down there. If i have time i would love to stop by.
    I will check my training schedule at work. If I have off I do not mind sharing information. I hate to use the word teach. It implies that I have knowledge. And right now I feel dumb as shit. (I had to take a class on a new optics system our unit is switching to. WOW! Talk about overload.)
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