THe spyderco was 54 and the shorty was 53 (with kydex sheath). Plus 8 for shipping, total was 115.

Got both from thebladeshop.com http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductD...B1259&CartID=2


knifecenter.com was another dealer i was considering. The prices between the two were real similar, i think the knife center may be a couple bucks cheaper now that I look at it again.

I looked at cold steel, and actually have thier dvd sitting on my desk right next to me. Havent watched it yet. It came with a watch my girlfriend bought me

I decided to go back to spyderco because of a few personal reasons:

- hole thumb deployment with locking back
- price, at under 60 bucks, it seems great
- PDT knife course was based around the delica 4, a very similar layout to the centrofante 3 i purchased. Plus i have a tiny bit of training on it, might as well not change something i am somewhat used to.