Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
I've said this before and will say it again...

And how do you feel about ex-Creationists and ministers who have realized that it's all a bunch of silly myths after clinging desperately to scripture for years? And trust me, I've been all through the "Evidence That Demands a Verdict Series" and other Josh McDowell writings, as well as wandering though a lot of Hal Lindsey's works. Plus scores of others.

They all fall apart when scrutinized at a truly intellectual level. They use a document to prove itself. You cannot do this - it is an inherently flawed method of proof. By applying the same type of logic anything becomes true because it proves itself.

If you want to believe something, that's fine, that's faith. But don't try to turn it into a scientific or historical study because it will fall apart quickly under the jaundiced gaze of rigirous academic scrutiny.
Well let me ask you what you believe? Are you a evolutionist? Where is your facts in that, if that is what you believe? Do you believe in Darwin's Theory, when there are claims that he became a Christian on his deathbed. Yes i am aware that this was not proven or disproved. But It goes both ways. There are several evolutionists that after years of trying to disprove the Bible could not and became Christians.

Thats fine if you want to read the scores of books and series out there. I applaud you for trying to find out information yourself. I enjoy reading and educating myself as well, but still there are no proven facts on either side, so those books are mere opinions, just as we are discussing here is opinions of what we believe.

What exactly about the Bible has "Fallen Apart" I am yet to hear anyone dissect the Bible and make it Fall Apart on an intellectual level. I am willing to listen to other ideas, and if you can give me proof that God does not exist i would be eager to hear it. But you simply cannot.