bible swimmers are the ones that believe that crap, it really gets old. I know people who just totally disregard that dinosaurs are 65 million years old...carbon dating tells you that. Some disregard dinosaurs altogether or believe that we lived among them LOL.
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i mean i can see someone disputing that carbon dating isn't 100% but come on even w/ a margin of error if you say something is 47 million years even w/ an error in dating it is still going to be MILLIONS not THOUSANDSOriginally Posted by SPOOLIN
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The Bible does not say that the world is only 6000 years old. There may be some Bible Thumpers that believe that. But there are also some crazy Bible thumpers that believe that abortion clinics should be blown up. You can't trust people because they are ignorant. But myself as a Christian do believe that the world is millions of years old. Not to mention it does talk about Dinosaurs in the Bible. But the word Dinosaur was not invented until the 1800's. But in Job 40 15-17
15 “Look now at the 3behemoth, which I made along with you;He eats grass like an ox.
16 See now, his strength is in his hips,
And his power is in his stomach muscles.
17 He moves his tail like a cedar;
The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.
Talks about moving his tail like a Ceder. What kind of animal has a Tail that big i ask? We dont have anything like that now.
btw Man might be 6000 years old, but not the world. Also I do not believe word for word the world was created in 6 days. It also states in the bible that to God a day is not the same as man. Its not a 24 hour period as he does not live on earth with the world rotating around in 24 hours. To God there is no such thing as time, because he is not living in the same reality we are. He has seen the past, present and future all at the same time.
Some translations list behemoth's "navel" in verse 16, thus precluding the possibility of it being a dinosaur. (Saurians, like avian and reptilian species, are born from eggs and have no navel - those are mammalian)
Verse above also only says the tail "sways like a cedar" - hard to take that as a definition of anything.
In the Hebrew, the word used for "behemoth" only appears once in the Bible and is otherwise untranslatable. It was the translators who looked at the rest of the details and determined that "lilith" must be something big, thus inserting the English word "behemoth" and giving us the idea that it could possibly be something like a dinosaur.
You want an interesting project? Dig up those verses through the end of the description (you know, being in the river, the eyes and nose, etc) in the major translations (NAS, NIV, KJ, Living) and compare them. You can't even get any kind of consensus among major, scholarly translations on what some of those strange allegories in Job mean. Trying to make any sort of claim that they describe a dinosaur is VERY far reaching. Kthnxbye
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Religious people will always disregard the facts. This is because once they believe the facts (they already do just don't want to admit) then majority of crap they believe in is BS. This is where the term "faith" comes in. You have to have faith. You basically have to go against all logic and facts and substitute fairy tails. They might as well believe in the tooth fairy because it makes the same amount of sense. It is truly sad. It is too bad that when that time comes to move on, they will never know they were wrong and wasted their life believing.
Let me ask you a question. How exactly would I be wasting my life. Maybe an hour every Sunday, plus a few hours here and there volunteering to help the less fortunate. Which is nice for people to do anyway. Plus a few hours here or there reading up on the bible, or trying to spread the word.
Lets give 2 examples
Me - Spent parts of my days going to church or helping people out. When i Die 2 things will happen. Either I (and other Christians) are right and there is a God. We go to heaven and live a happy eternal life. As it has been promised to us. Or there is no God as you believe. Nothing happens when I die, but at least I spent my life in Good spirits and helping people.
You - Doing whatever you do, same as me but without the church and maybe without the volunteering. (maybe you do, maybe you don't, people don't have to be a Christian to help people) When you die, if your wrong you will spend eternity in Hell, being tortured. Or there is no God and nothing happens when you die. How much more out of life did you get than me.
I still spent my days happy, pleased with myself and with God or without as you see it. Maybe you were happy too. So if there is a God we will have completely different endings. If there is not, we will end up the same. I haven't wasted anything.
I could see how someone could believe that "Religion" was made up by men to keep people in line. I don't agree with it, but i can definitely see the other side. But how could you think there is no God. Look around. How could the ECO system, the animals, the food chain, the oceans and everything in this world and Universe be put together by chance. Its beyond impossible. Even the Albert Eisenstein said that even if he didn't believe in Religion, he believes there is a God.
God is also man made.
Only counting the 1 hour per Sunday, from the age of 18 to say 68, you have wasted over 108 days of your life believeing in something that does not exist and which you have NO proof that does.
BTW...that does not count the time you get dressed for church, the time you drive to church, the time you get undressed from church. So if you count that you have wated 2-3 times that amount.
Last edited by DynamicSound; 05-21-2009 at 11:06 AM.
not trying to be a dick...
if you only doing shit to insure you place in imagination land then whatever works for you but don't think for a second that people who don't believe don't live for filling lives nor help society any less. religion has done far more damage to society than good; this needs no explaining and with the amount of revenue religions brings in each year i'm sure it is in the Trillions they could of cured cancer or hiv.
it always cracks me up when people say well "what if your wrong your going to hell"... what the fuck is hell to someone that doesn't believe in it?
Paul "your bullshit makes the flowers grow"
Amen to that, lol.not trying to be a dick...
if you only doing shit to insure you place in imagination land then whatever works for you but don't think for a second that people who don't believe don't live for filling lives nor help society any less. religion has done far more damage to society than good; this needs no explaining and with the amount of revenue religions brings in each year i'm sure it is in the Trillions they could of cured cancer or hiv.
it always cracks me up when people say well "what if your wrong your going to hell"... what the fuck is hell to someone that doesn't believe in it?
Not to mention that the Jews are suppose to be the choosen people. Sounds like if I wanted a sure bet, I would be lining up behind them. Not the christians.
I love when people do or say bad things, then turn around and claim to be a christian. So they can do what they want, but as long as they believe, they will get into heaven. Get real, I am sure majority of religious people would be going to hell just like the rest of us that does not believe.
Suggesting you have to be a Christian to have a sense of moral absolute, or that morality comes from the Christian God, is patently ridiculous. It absolutely ignores the majority of the world's population that manages to live a more peaceful and harmonious life than our Christian forebears and I maintain that's a superior "morality."
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