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    Short answer - no, you can't legally own a Glock 18. It's a post-sample firearm, manufactured / registered after May 19, 1986.

    Only FFL/SOT's can get one on a demo letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaX
    Short answer - no, you can't legally own a Glock 18. It's a post-sample firearm, manufactured / registered after May 19, 1986.

    Only FFL/SOT's can get one on a demo letter.
    I know it's not legal, I was just asking if anybody possibly had this weapon in their possesion, and I found out only federally licensed dealers can have the ability to get weapons of this type.
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    That doesn't mean the guy can't make himself one. A gunsmith with enough skill and knowledge can do wonders. Lots of weapons can be "modified" to do lots of "illegal" things. One can technically take a hacksaw and hack off a barrel off any rifle and have it as short as he/she wants. Is it legal? Hell no. Can it be done? Of course. Has it been done? A million times.

    So can this guy technically have one? Sure. Is it legal? Hell no. Does that matter? Not to many.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    That doesn't mean the guy can't make himself one. A gunsmith with enough skill and knowledge can do wonders. Lots of weapons can be "modified" to do lots of "illegal" things. One can technically take a hacksaw and hack off a barrel off any rifle and have it as short as he/she wants. Is it legal? Hell no. Can it be done? Of course. Has it been done? A million times.

    So can this guy technically have one? Sure. Is it legal? Hell no. Does that matter? Not to many.

    Comparing a post-sample MG to an SBR is not a good comparison. Can he saw off his own barrel? Sure...but he could easily pay $200 and do it legally. The only way to legally get a post-sample MG is to be an FFL/SOT and have written permission from the BATFE to have possession of it, and you have to prove to them that it is to demo the firearm to a law enforcement or government agency. If you ever decide to get out of the FFL/SOT business, or let your license expire, you have to transfer it to another FFL/SOT who is requesting such a firearm on a demo letter, or destroy the firearm.

    I do get what you're saying though - lots of people own illegal firearms. For just a few dollars, you can buy plans to illegally machine your own DIAS. Or you can do the right thing and buy a registered DIAS for about $11,000. You need to decide if the risk of huge fines, long prison terms, your property being confiscated, and never being able to own a firearm again is worth it. Me? I'll pay to play if I can ever afford it. For now I'll stay legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaX
    Comparing a post-sample MG to an SBR is not a good comparison. Can he saw off his own barrel? Sure...but he could easily pay $200 and do it legally. The only way to legally get a post-sample MG is to be an FFL/SOT and have written permission from the BATFE to have possession of it, and you have to prove to them that it is to demo the firearm to a law enforcement or government agency. If you ever decide to get out of the FFL/SOT business, or let your license expire, you have to transfer it to another FFL/SOT who is requesting such a firearm on a demo letter, or destroy the firearm.

    I do get what you're saying though - lots of people own illegal firearms. For just a few dollars, you can buy plans to illegally machine your own DIAS. Or you can do the right thing and buy a registered DIAS for about $11,000. You need to decide if the risk of huge fines, long prison terms, your property being confiscated, and never being able to own a firearm again is worth it. Me? I'll pay to play if I can ever afford it. For now I'll stay legal.
    That's the truth....you said one main thing..... STAY LEGAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaX
    Comparing a post-sample MG to an SBR is not a good comparison. Can he saw off his own barrel? Sure...but he could easily pay $200 and do it legally. The only way to legally get a post-sample MG is to be an FFL/SOT and have written permission from the BATFE to have possession of it, and you have to prove to them that it is to demo the firearm to a law enforcement or government agency. If you ever decide to get out of the FFL/SOT business, or let your license expire, you have to transfer it to another FFL/SOT who is requesting such a firearm on a demo letter, or destroy the firearm.

    I do get what you're saying though - lots of people own illegal firearms. For just a few dollars, you can buy plans to illegally machine your own DIAS. Or you can do the right thing and buy a registered DIAS for about $11,000. You need to decide if the risk of huge fines, long prison terms, your property being confiscated, and never being able to own a firearm again is worth it. Me? I'll pay to play if I can ever afford it. For now I'll stay legal.
    I don't know half of your accronyms, but you didn't get what I was saying.

    The OP asked a rather simple question that many have complicated. He wanted to know if his friend could POSSIBLY have a certain type of weapon to shut him up or not. That was the question. Not how to make it legal, how much it costs, nor what the steps are. Can his buddy POSSIBLY have one. The short answer is maybe. If it's legal or not is another whole question. That was my point.

    We all modify our guns all the time, atleast I do. We change out triggers, firing pins, grips, sights, etc. Is it too far to fathom that some unscrupulous gunsmith out there is not willing to modify a gun for the right cash price? Not really. Matter of fact, I'm willing to bet there are plenty DIY videos/instructions out there on the net on how to do plenty of mods that are not legal at all.

    Anyway, the bottomline is that his friend COULD have one, but the likelihood is that he doesn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaX
    Short answer - no, you can't legally own a Glock 18. It's a post-sample firearm, manufactured / registered after May 19, 1986.

    Only FFL/SOT's can get one on a demo letter.
    actually a glock rep told me once that there were actually a handful of glock 18's manufactured before 5/19/86. He wouldn't say exactly how many, but he made out like it was less than a dozen. He said they are valued at over $90k, and change ownership VERY rarely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    actually a glock rep told me once that there were actually a handful of glock 18's manufactured before 5/19/86. He wouldn't say exactly how many, but he made out like it was less than a dozen. He said they are valued at over $90k, and change ownership VERY rarely.
    Now that I think about it, I think I did hear something about only a few transferable G18's being around, and I would not doubt them commanding a price that high.

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