your looking at a 12ga over under not a 12/22 or the likes, correct? Any particular reason for this? They are beautiful guns dont get me wrong and nice trophy peices, i just found that i never used mine. I took mine bird killing up north one year and that was it. I later decided a cheap pump was my best bet because of getting it dirty/scratching it, etc.. I saw a link not to long ago on these premier series. A bit pricy when you can get a custom "big name" company gun for the same price. i will try and find the article and shoot it your way. I am not saying there bad guns i just honestly dont see spending 2500 on anything remington makes.