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    Quote Originally Posted by sport_122
    No other religion places a physical, historically proven, representative of their faith on this planet.
    Buddha was a real proven guy, what about Mohammad? Wasn't he real too? It is said that Zoroaster was a real person. L Ron Hubbard of course existed as well. Also:
    "born Mírzá Ḥusayn-`Alí Nuri (Persian: میرزا حسینعلی نوری), was the founder of the Bahá'í Faith. He claimed to be the prophetic fulfilment of Bábism, a 19th-century outgrowth of Shí‘ism, but in a broader sense claimed to be a messenger from God" He said he was a messangar of God and he actually did exist for real because he was born in 1817.

    Now the oldest religion still practiced today in the world... Hinduism, claims that Krishna, an avatar of Vishnu was born in 3228 BC.

    Don't forget Mani:
    Mani (c. 210–276 AD) was the founder of Manichaeism, an ancient gnostic religion that was once widespread but is now extinct.According to biographical accounts by al-Biruni, preserved in the tenth century encyclopedia the Fihrist of Ibn al-Nadim, Mani received a revelation in his youth from a spirit whom he later called the Syzygos or Twin, who taught him the divine truths of the religion.In his mid-twenties, Mani decided that salvation is possible through education, self-denial, vegetarianism, fasting and chastity. Mani claimed to be the Paraclete promised in the New Testament, the Last Prophet or Seal of the Prophets.Mani presented himself as a savior and an apostle of Jesus Christ.

    Don't worry, there are more too.

    My point is that its often not because there is no evidence, its more because your personal world view has been influenced and shaped in ways that make you think that it is not possible, therefore every piece of evidence you gather or that is laid before you will be denied or viewed with skepticism. Nobody can prove anything to someone who doesn't have an open mind to hear it or who refuses to believe. Even those people that say..."if God would ...." then I would believe...no they wouldn't.
    Jesus could have existed, he could have not existed. I don't care. But what I do know is that you can not multiply fish or loaves of bread by praying. I do know that it is impossible for a human to have a virgin birth.


    This was my first major for three years. Biology, chemistry and physics.
    You had 3 majors?

    Aced them all and they do not say anything that contradicts anything of faith.
    If you really did learn about valance electrons, X and Y chromosomes, conversation of matter and energy, forces... Then you should have figured out that praying does nothing since miracles can not happen (even though today something as simple as a very underweight and premature crack baby living is called a miracle even though the baby is most likely going to end up retarded), that virgin birth is impossible. And that only what can happen does happen. To have Jesus to turn water into wine, extra atoms and molecules would have to have appeared out of thin air into that water... Impossible.

    To assume that any of the sciences disproves anything in scripture is false. You can feel free to list what in science disproves what in scripture...and please site the scripture and site it as it is written, not as someone has interpreted it.
    Ok.

    Mat 21:22 "And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."

    They should have figured out that was bullshit long ago.
    Name something in scripture and I will see if I can disprove it.


    All the 6000 year old stuff, and the evolution stuff, none of that is discussed in the bible, so how could you say the Bible has presented a stance on it? I ask this quesiton to believers as well.
    Well I didnt say anything about the 6000 years. People get that by adding up the genelogies of the characters in the Bible. But even though it it not directy discussed in the Bible, evolution is highly against it because the Bible provides its own story of human and animal creation. With God specifically creating a homo sapein out of dirt with that being the first hominid ever, a female homo sapein out of Adam's rib and specifically creating land and air animals.

    There are studies on the afterlife there are many books written on this and you obviously have NOT read any of them.
    Why would I want to waste my time with those?


    In fact I would bet that you think all muslims are terrorists, all buddhists are monks, and all Jewish people have black hats and curly hair.
    I am friends with muslims, my coworker is muslim. They are not terrorists. The section of Jihad is mainly described as an internal struggle with one's self. Not external war. In fact I plan to be traveling through Central Asia after I graduate. No not all Buddists are monks, just like your not a Christian monk. And the curly hair comment. It is proven that most people who claim Jewish heritage have genetics that can be traced back to the Levent and Middle East. Most Jews come from Israel/Levent, and it can be proven genetically. That is why Jewish can also be declared a genetic ethnicity and a religion. Many people do it on the census in many countries.

    As stated before the codes of Leviticus and the 10 commandments are not the same. In the face of your obvious ignorance and lack of concern to accuracy I won't even explain it again. Just know this, you are completely inaccurate on your views of the Christian faith as it pertains to morality, justice, grace, and the God centered world view.
    In response to that I say that you are completely ignorant to the non-believing view as it pertains to morality, justice, stuff...

    Not too many people view God as a giant man sitting on a giant golden throne in a kingly suit of armor. That is the mental configuration of a society who has taught themselves to associate all things with that of war and physical stature.
    Then how come people say "man was created in God's image"?
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.

    Finally,
    you claim to have studied all of these religions, but the way you are completely misrepresenting and misquoting the Bible and the foundations of Christianity and Judaism, I doubt you.
    I was mainly using text taken from your own posts. And stuff that I did take from the Bible was pretty clear. Copy/Paste doesn't misquote.

    as i just said. I don't believe you are accurate at all about Christianity which is all around you as a southern american, why would I think you are going to be factually accurate about any other faith/religion which is a minority and mostly hidden from the public eye? Your inaccuracies kill your own validity in this conversation.
    I am not a "southern american". I was not born in this region and I do not plan to stay in this region. Since I currently do not have a job I spend most of my time watching travel documentaries that deal deeply with local culture and local people, presented by local people.
    Last edited by zimabog; 07-18-2009 at 09:38 PM.

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