Quote Originally Posted by zimabog

Learn about other religions and their history.
Then tell me straight up that you still believe in Christianity.


Then take a few biology, chemistry, physics, dynamics, and thermodynamic classes and tell me straight up you still believe in the divinity of modern humans (god's image and we have special dominion from god to rule over other animals), prayer/miracles, and an afterlife.

What makes the Bible any more creditable than the Koran, Torah, Avesta, Rigveda, Pali Canon, the scriptures of Jainism, Taoism, ...ect?
i minored in Studies of Religion and I believe more than ever. There is more evidence to support Biblical accuracies than most people are willing to accept. Of course there is some overlap between other faiths. What that should tell you at least is that somehow people are tapping into this stuff without having it crammed down their throats from another culture or religion because it is somehow inside of us ALL. The thing about the Christian God is always going to come back to Jesus. Jesus' death and resurrection was proof of His claims. No other religion places a physical, historically proven, representative of their faith on this planet. There are MANY books about this that site very good reasons to believe it. There are many atheists that say that even the explosion of the Christian church immediately following his death is evidence that there was something going on with Jesus that made him a believable person in history, in that if he had not risen (he had been seen by hundreds of people after he was placed in a tomb) then people (especially jews) would have immediately dismissed him and his teachings as he made the claim that he would rise again. And there is huge significance to this. but of course the atheist reduces it to some sort of trick or misunderstanding of events.

My point is that its often not because there is no evidence, its more because your personal world view has been influenced and shaped in ways that make you think that it is not possible, therefore every piece of evidence you gather or that is laid before you will be denied or viewed with skepticism. Nobody can prove anything to someone who doesn't have an open mind to hear it or who refuses to believe. Even those people that say..."if God would ...." then I would believe...no they wouldn't.

Then take a few biology, chemistry, physics, dynamics, and thermodynamic classes and tell me straight up you still believe in the divinity of modern humans (god's image and we have special dominion from god to rule over other animals), prayer/miracles, and an afterlife.
This was my first major for three years. Biology, chemistry and physics. Aced them all and they do not say anything that contradicts anything of faith. You need to realize that the Bible does not give science lessons or research results in order to provide review. To assume that any of the sciences disproves anything in scripture is false. You can feel free to list what in science disproves what in scripture...and please site the scripture and site it as it is written, not as someone has interpreted it.

All the 6000 year old stuff, and the evolution stuff, none of that is discussed in the bible, so how could you say the Bible has presented a stance on it? I ask this quesiton to believers as well.

There are studies on the afterlife there are many books written on this and you obviously have NOT read any of them. (Dr. Gary Schwartz-Afterlife studies. You can read his stuff) Miracles cannot be defined scientifically as they would only be described as things that happen outside of the laws of nature. This means they are not testable and repeatable therefore science ignores them. Its a lose lose situation for anyone claiming a miracle. The scientist says prove it, but by definition the miracle cannot be proven to have happened a certain way so science ignores it (much like they do the UFO phenomenon)...whats that about?

In less than 4 hours it would be Saturday. Now I am going to wake up and do things. If you were a true Bible or Torah follower, you would track me down and kill me for breaking one of the Commandments.
this statement shows me that you really have not taken a serious look into asking what the Christian believes. This is far from the truth of their faith. In fact I would bet that you think all muslims are terrorists, all buddhists are monks, and all Jewish people have black hats and curly hair.

As stated before the codes of Leviticus and the 10 commandments are not the same. In the face of your obvious ignorance and lack of concern to accuracy I won't even explain it again. Just know this, you are completely inaccurate on your views of the Christian faith as it pertains to morality, justice, grace, and the God centered world view.

Not too many people view God as a giant man sitting on a giant golden throne in a kingly suit of armor. That is the mental configuration of a society who has taught themselves to associate all things with that of war and physical stature.

Finally,
you claim to have studied all of these religions, but the way you are completely misrepresenting and misquoting the Bible and the foundations of Christianity and Judaism, I doubt you. Even if you have I couldn't take you seriously on anything you would say about them as you have proven yourself to be inaccurate in many statements. Just remember that it is one thing to study it so that you know and you are accurate in what believers believe and it is another thing to believe it. Right now you are not doing either and when anyone who (believer or not) has studied and really researched the origins and history of the Christian faith reads your comments you sound extremely uniformed.


I still think that if you guys research other religions you would see the light.
Don't make me post it all in here.
as i just said. I don't believe you are accurate at all about Christianity which is all around you as a southern american, why would I think you are going to be factually accurate about any other faith/religion which is a minority and mostly hidden from the public eye? Your inaccuracies kill your own validity in this conversation.

Personally I thought you were doing okay when you were just asking questions and saying you didn't really agree.