btstone, geoff, sport_122... all three of you have faith. something i don't and sometimes wish i had -- because well, you guys feel something that i havent and me, being a person who always likes to seek new things cannot achive it. why wasn't i not blessed with it? faith must be nice... hopefully someday my view on life and religion will change, but the way the world and society is going something really spectacular has to occur. i won't be posting back and forth anymore because like i said in my first post in this thread "... there really is no point in debating this... you can't change someones belief with words. I came to that realization years ago."

yojimbo out of all the people that i have seen posting in this thread i can tell that you have a compasion and a huge heart. i wasnt blessed with faith. it was hard for me to find it and its harder yet to hold on to it. i pray for you bro that not words from men but God Himself will give you faith that you wish you had. see ya around man.