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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    ^^ I assume that you have proof of God then... yes?
    walk out side and look at nature. proof of God is right there.
    there is also a study that was done in the Arctic Circle about ice caves and how nothing could have evolved with in them due to the harsh climate. yet there is still live living within the caves...give me a few and i will find the study.....im at work so i gotta find time to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by btstone
    walk out side and look at nature. proof of God is right there.
    there is also a study that was done in the Arctic Circle about ice caves and how nothing could have evolved with in them due to the harsh climate. yet there is still live living within the caves...give me a few and i will find the study.....im at work so i gotta find time to do it
    This post of yours contradicts your previous post... because your first said that the evolution theory has yet to be proven and that it is only a theory, yet in this one you say that there is a "study" of life in ice caves, glaciers or whatever you want to call em, but that's proof enough of organisms evolving and adapting to that harsh environment. you asked what our school's are teaching kids these days -- well, just look back in history and take a look at the accomplishments atheists and other anti-religion people made and you tell me.

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    Do I believe in God, yes or no?

    The universe is incredibly massive. Nevertheless, its mass must be spectacularly fine-tuned for life to be possible. Exactly how massive the universe is remained unknown until astronomers focused the Hubble Space Telescope on a patch of sky no bigger than a tenth the Moon's (angular) diameter, and held it there for some 278 hours (1million seconds). This Ultra Deep Field (picture below) successfully imaged all the galaxies (at least those bigger than dwarfs) that exist in that region.

    The field contains roughly 10,000 galaxies. By extrapolation, then, astronomers determine that the entire observable universe contains at least 200 billion galaxies. These galaxies contain an estimated average of 200 billion stars each. The total number of stars in these galaxies, then, is 40 billion trillion. The unobserved dwarf galaxies would contribute an estimated additional 10 billion trillion. Thus, the total number of stars in the observable universe adds up to about 50 billion trillion.
    ...........................fifty billion trillion stars that's an unimaginably enormous universe. And yet the universe is more massive by far. The stars, both those that are still shining and those that have burned out, account for just one percent of the universe's total mass!

    One reason the universe must be so massive is that life requires it. The density of protons and neutrons determines how much of the universe's hydrogen fuses into heavier elements. With a slightly lower density (producing fewer than about 50 billion trillion observable stars), nuclear fusion would be less productive and at no time in cosmic history (either in the big bang or in stars) would elements heavier than helium be produced. Or, if the density were slightly higher (producing more than about 50 billion trillion observable stars), nuclear fusion would be so productive that only heavier-than-iron elements would exist. Either way, life essential elements such as carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and phosphorous would be too scarce or nonexistent.

    Another life-related reason the universe must be so massive is that the cosmic mass critically influences the universe's expansion rate. If the mass density were smaller, the influence of gravity would be too weak for stars like the Sun and planets like Earth to form. On the other hand, if the mass density were greater, only stars much larger than the Sun would form. Either way, the universe would contain no stars like the Sun or planets like Earth, and life would have no possible home. The required fine-tuning is so extreme (one part in a quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion) that if one were to remove or add a single dime's worth of mass to this vast cosmos, the balance of the observable universe would be thrown off and physical life would not be possible .

    God spoke it and it stood fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by yojimbo
    This post of yours contradicts your previous post... because your first said that the evolution theory has yet to be proven and that it is only a theory, yet in this one you say that there is a "study" of life in ice caves, glaciers or whatever you want to call em, but that's proof enough of organisms evolving and adapting to that harsh environment. you asked what our school's are teaching kids these days -- well, just look back in history and take a look at the accomplishments atheists and other anti-religion people made and you tell me.
    the organisms never evolved. they have aways been there and have never changed. i dont contradict myself ever..re-read my post. dont plug words in my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by btstone
    the organisms never evolved. they have aways been there and have never changed. i dont contradict myself ever..re-read my post. dont plug words in my post
    sorry but you have no evidence to support that claim of yours...
    how do you know that the organisms have been there since the beginning of time? who told you that lie? are you confused as to what evolution actually is or do you just not wish to understand it or put any effort into reading up on it?

    polar bears, sea lions, walrus', pinguins, ect. all evolved and adapted to the arctic environment... so, what makes you think microorganisms didn't?
    am i wrong here? or were they placed there in a snap of a finger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yojimbo
    sorry but you have no evidence to support that claim of yours...
    how do you know that the organisms have been there since the beginning of time? who told you that lie? are you confused as to what evolution actually is or do you just not wish to understand it or put any effort into reading up on it?

    polar bears, sea lions, walrus', pinguins, ect. all evolved and adapted to the arctic environment... so, what makes you think microorganisms didn't?
    am i wrong here? or were they placed there in a snap of a finger?
    yes you are wrong....you can not prove evolution. you can try to feed me a bunch shit darwin said about fruit flies mutating and birds and etc. still no proof..

    im not sure if i was placed here by a snap or just a command. ill have to check on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by btstone
    yes you are wrong....you can not prove evolution. you can try to feed me a bunch shit darwin said about fruit flies mutating and birds and etc. still no proof..

    im not sure if i was placed here by a snap or just a command. ill have to check on that
    with the average life-span of a normal human-being, one cannot physically observe evolution,
    but you keep saying that I am wrong when you have about the same proof that i do about evolution as you do about God and his existence.

    we're both on the same river of knowledge... only difference is that my boat is a couple miles ahead of yours. if you're so curious as to how you came to exist just ask your parents what they were thinking before they had sex -- did your father nut inside your mother on purpose or was it an accident? a birth is usually a mistake or accident... according to recent studies. some deity did not tell your parents to have sexual intercourse and bare a child. never was there any other party involved...

    ... yet there is no reasoning with close-minded people. I came to realize that years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yojimbo
    with the average life-span of a normal human-being, one cannot physically observe evolution,
    but you keep saying that I am wrong when you have about the same proof that i do about evolution as you do about God and his existence.

    we're both on the same river of knowledge... only difference is that my boat is a couple miles ahead of yours. if you're so curious as to how you came to exist just ask your parents what they were thinking before they had sex -- did your father nut inside your mother on purpose or was it an accident? a birth is usually a mistake or accident... according to recent studies. some deity did not tell your parents to have sexual intercourse and bare a child. never was there any other party involved...

    ... yet there is no reasoning with close-minded people. I came to realize that years ago.

    im not close minded. you are more close minded than most ppl i have met. you just assume your boat is further up the river. it is not. you have no proof other than your theories. thhere are not enough or even close to enough fossil records to prove anything.

    and yes, i was a planned birth. it took 4 months for my old man to shoot a good nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yojimbo
    sorry but you have no evidence to support that claim of yours...
    how do you know that the organisms have been there since the beginning of time? who told you that lie? are you confused as to what evolution actually is or do you just not wish to understand it or put any effort into reading up on it?

    polar bears, sea lions, walrus', pinguins, ect. all evolved and adapted to the arctic environment... so, what makes you think microorganisms didn't?
    am i wrong here? or were they placed there in a snap of a finger?
    sorry, you have no evidence either

    they didnt evolve, they adapted. learn the correct definitions

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