Does a Good God exclude the possibility of a Bad World?

[bookthief]

Yeah no shit.
Only idiots think that's a good argument.

Plus who are we to impose good and evil on a thing we made up?
Let me ask you something. Why does anyone need an "excuse" to not believe in a/any God, good or bad? If God wanted you to believe in him, don't you think he'd do something cool like, make his presence known?
I'm sure God's idea of a good time is to hide himself as best he can, and see who will still believe in made up stories and then reward them after they die.

All the Evil in the world serves a purpose -- which is; that it at least implies that most of us have much more compassion than God does.

Plus, nobody wants to believe that there's a bad God out there...


'cept me.

Bad/evil accentuates our appreciation of good, but it does not define it. To give it such weight is to suggest that it is as equally valid and necessary as good. That simply cannot be. As well, to argue thusly would also put an end to those arguments people wish to put forth as to the problem with God not eradicating evil from this world; if it's equally valid and necessary, why should He do so?

[RL...]

God has no direct influence on this planet or what happens on it, good or bad. God(or gods/whatever is out there) could be good, could be bad, I think it is neither. I think it just is.

I don't think he's a kid who created the world, created humans, told a human to write down his commandments, gave us free will, only to punish us if we don't live by the book. That sounds exactly like the thoughts of an irrational human being, not the thoughts of a an all powerful being.

[sport_122]

God has no direct influence on this planet or what happens on it, good or bad. God(or gods/whatever is out there) could be good, could be bad, I think it is neither. I think it just is.

I don't think he's a kid who created the world, created humans, told a human to write down his commandments, gave us free will, only to punish us if we don't live by the book. That sounds exactly like the thoughts of an irrational human being, not the thoughts of a an all powerful being.

you do realize that this quote contradicts what you have said in your "in the name of religion thread"

The faith of people directly corresponds with what happens in the world. the fact that people believe in something more directly shapes what they will do with their lives which directly effects the world.

I don't believe in free will either. I think that is created by men in order to take credit for something that they had no say in. If will is truly free then there would be no limitations. You are limited to the choices you made by what you know and what your experiences are.

[RL...]

you do realize that this quote contradicts what you have said in your "in the name of religion thread"

The faith of people directly corresponds with what happens in the world. the fact that people believe in something more directly shapes what they will do with their lives which directly effects the world.

I don't believe in free will either. I think that is created by men in order to take credit for something that they had no say in. If will is truly free then there would be no limitations. You are limited to the choices you made by what you know and what your experiences are.

I haven't contradicted myself, if you think I did you misinterpreted my statements

Not necessarilly, but to some extent yes..


There is no way to prove or disprove free will. I could say that I'm free and unbound by fate and to prove it, I go shoot someone. But then one could argue that I was destined to shoot that person and that it was fate and that what happened happened, and couldn't have been different.