so would a movie theater be considered a PG? i wouldnt think it is since you are going to see a movie, not other people. and its definitely not an event or concert. i would be CC, but just wondered anyones take on it.
so would a movie theater be considered a PG? i wouldnt think it is since you are going to see a movie, not other people. and its definitely not an event or concert. i would be CC, but just wondered anyones take on it.
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It is a dicey situation. Best advise, call up the local PD and ask.
I was talking to an S.O. officer said he honestly had no idea what the laws are but he doesn't care as long as you are not stupid. From the cops I have talked to a lot of them have no idea about the laws or rules.
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Best advice: if you think you're gonna get shot up at the movie theater, maybe you should stay at home
whats to say i wont get robbed in the parking lot? thats the stupidest advice ive ever heard. i carry a pistol in case something unplanned happens. thats like telling ppl not to wear their seatbelt, if you think you will get in a wreck, dont drive.Originally Posted by hotshot
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get a ccw. You will never have problems with carrying if no one knows you do. If it comes time to defend yourself or others I am sure the authorities wont care that you carried in the wrong place. my two cents
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^^ The old better to seek forgiveness than permission theory. Dpending on The DA or ADA you may get away with it, then again you may get crucified.
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lol. nope. totally different. I cant get arrested for buckling someone for no reasonOriginally Posted by patrick4588
^^ no not really. The reasoning is one and the same.
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I think he means CC in there.Originally Posted by Truegiant
Originally Posted by hotshot
get out moron.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
i always carry in a theater. that doesnt mean its legal. It has always been dicey imo.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
I do agree with what one guy said on GCO, Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. I personally believe that does apply to this situation.
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CC'd, no issues. and im damn sure glad i did. there was an old guy who was really making me and my gf uncomfortable. me and my gf were the only ones in the theater and he came and sat directly behind us. we got up and moved a few rows back. then followed us out to my car after the movie. nothing came from the incident, but it was very out of the norm.
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youre doing something potentially illegal, and I'm the moron? What an idiotOriginally Posted by Danny
what's dicier is that people like you own weapons.
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you're fine, just don't OC.
he is doing nothing illegal, he just doesn't seem to completely understand the law. as for you telling ppl to stay home if they're scared of getting shot at, ever heard of a home invasion?Originally Posted by hotshot
Of course. I never said anything about keeping your gun at home where it should be
Originally Posted by hotshot
Its only dicy to me because with ga PG clause alot of things are dicy and are up for interpretation. But this goes for most laws.
And yes you are a moron. Not only did you suggest that we carry guns because we are expecting to get "shot up"; but you also suggest that you believe that guns should stay "at home where they belong". Both suggestions are complete garbage, and very typical of the ignorant anti-gun crowd.
If you want to learn why people carry, and why people think guns belong "outside the house" then just ask. But coming in here and suggesting that we carry into a theater because we think we are going to get "shot up", and then telling us to leave the guns at home isn't exactly the most intelligent way to learn why we do what we do. But then again, chances are you don't give a damn about being a fool.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
Originally Posted by patrick4588
OC spray will resolve issues like that. Anyone following you like that is up to no good, a good hosing of OC is the least they deserve. Its generally polite to at least change course completely in the parking lot twice, to insure they are following you.![]()
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
movie theaters are not considered PG in this state unless they're hosting something out of the ordinary.Originally Posted by Danny
Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
Good. But that doesnt mean some officer or judge wont think differently. Thats why we hate the PG clause.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
do you have any legislation or case law to show that? it seems nobody can find anythin concrete to support that. badass if its true!Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
After reading through the actual bill, it is still VERY gray. There is no definition of a PG that works for everyday occurrences such as a movie theater or even the mall.
the discover mills theater has a sign saying no weapons, but other theaters do not have said sign. thats the only thing i know about carring in theaters. good thing you decided to carry with the creep in the theater with you
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lol. ok buddy. I know exactly why people carry, Its cause they wanna try to protect their family and their stuff. I hope it does get ruled as a public gathering though.Originally Posted by Danny
Consider this hypothetical situation: You grab your gun, head out to the movies, but you dont bother to turn your safety on cause you think the chances of actually having to use it are slim, or for some reason you dont turn it on, or for some reason, you accidently switch it off. You grab your drinks and your popcorn, find the seat you want to sit in and walk up the stairs. As you're crouching down to sit in your seat, your gun falls out of the holster and on to the concrete floor below. The 12 year old girl sitting one row in front of you and two seats to the left hears a loud bang and is now gasping for breath. She will no longer be able to enjoy the movie because she is being rushed to the hospital where she will certainly die from a gunshot wound to the spinal cord. You'll be judged by 12, and she'll be carried by 6. Glad you made sure your family and belongings were safe in the movie theater, dont you.
you are fucking retarted.
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great answer there, sportOriginally Posted by patrick4588
sadly its better than anything you have posted in this thread
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LOL. Good to know what Im dealing with. People wanting to carry guns into public gatherings are the same people lacking the mental capacity to defend their reason why they should and the best retort they can come up with is "you are fucking retarted". Let me know when you go out with your gun so I can stay at home. Preciate that in advance.Originally Posted by patrick4588
wow. Too many movies for you. Just for kicks and giggles i will actually address this screnario in a line item fashion.Originally Posted by hotshot
- saftey off: the gun i normally carry doesnt even have a saftey, yet the only time it has EVER gone off is when i press the trigger (so unless i decide to shoot 12 year old sally, she has no reason to worry about getting shot by my gun). I also have a 1911 i carry from time to time that has a thumb safety like you speak of. Reholstering without the safety engaged on this gun isnt an option, although its technically possible, muscle memory reduces this human error to effectively zero. But again, this gun too only goes off when the trigger is pressed. Once the gun is holster this too would have effectively zero chance of an accidental discharge, once again leaving Sally in perfect health.
- The gun flys out of its holster and land perfectly so it discharges a round: my normal carry gun (and essentially every handgun) can take its far share of abuse with out an accidental discharge. Although i have never dropped a gun on accident, i am confident that my glock could be thrown down on the concrete and not discharge. Also my 1911 (95+ year old design) has to be dropped from 40+ feet onto concrete, perfectly on its muzzle before it runs a measurable risk of accidentally discharging. If it lands at any angle except perfectly vertical this would decrease the odds of a discharge dramatically. This has been tested and available somewhere on google. So once again, Sally is still in perfect health by all reasonable probability.
- So is your theoretical story possible? Technically yes, but your talking about a probability so close to zero it isnt even funny. Now yes you could run into some window licker than could probably make this story come true, but nothing can help people like that not even making a theater a public gather like you want, because that type of person could care less.
- Its important to remember that guns are just tools, they dont jump out of thier holsters on thier own when your sitting down. And they sure as hell dont press thier own trigger, killing poor Sally. We understand your scared of guns for some reason, but open your eyes and learn about it, maybe you will understand and become a fan.
Lots of gun owners carry for "protection", but just as many carry "because we can."Originally Posted by hotshot
"A right not exercised is a right lost." A very true quote.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
HAHA. dude unless your gun is fucked up or older than your grandma it wont slam fire.Originally Posted by hotshot
the safety only keeps the trigger from moving and engaging the sear. if you (hypothetically) dropped it out of your POS loose holster and it fell onto the ground it would slam-fire regardless...
and if you do in fact carry, you dont want a loose fuckin holster like what you described.
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so are you saying a gun has never slam fired before and will never slam fire again? Im saying it can happen. Alot of variables there.
Unless you are watching the movie from a helicopter then no its not going to happen.Originally Posted by hotshot
If you use every minuscule risk as a reason to avoid something you must never leave your bed, but then again you could turn onto your stomach when you sleep and suffocate yourself on your pillow. And yes, the chances of a gun firing off a round from a 3ft drop is about the same as suffocating yourself on your pillow in your sleep.
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Did you miss my post above, or did you ignore it?
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
Gonna say you are wrong Hotshot. I carry a pocket knife. What if I trip going down the stairs and it slings open. It cartwheels down the stairs and into the bottom row into the back of some guy's head. Hey...it could happen...right? lulz
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I think that big ass coke i saw your carrying into the movie the other day is unacceptable, I mean it could have fallen on my little kid and drowned her.Originally Posted by FlipKing
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"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
Even tho his reply was a little stupid it had some truth to it. If your scared to go to the movies with out a gun u need to grow some balls. Its a pubic place where others would def see if someone was being attacked and would help or get help. Not only that most malls and theaters have cops there. At least on the weekends.Originally Posted by patrick4588
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Hmm. You have alot more faith in police and the general public than I do. Movie theater or not, you can be dead or dying in a lot less time than it takes for Mr. Fat Rent-a-cop takes to get there. But like i said earlier, "protection" is just one little part of the equation of carrying.
But then again the average gun carrier isn't afraid we are going to get mugged, stabbed or shot at. If that was the case, the last thing we would do is strap a tiny pistol on our hip and act like the problem just disappeared, like you seem to be suggesting.
I have seen how helpful the general public is, no way are they my safety plan. Your welcome to count on the public and police to help you, no thanks. They are a decent secondary plan, but a shatty primary.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."