What do you think the best weapon type for home defense is?
Please assume that each weapon has been loaded with an effective defense round.
Best weapon type for home defense?
What do you think the best weapon type for home defense is?
Please assume that each weapon has been loaded with an effective defense round.
Last edited by Danny; 04-01-2009 at 11:08 AM.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
or if u can sneak up behind the person...a bat
poll!
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
shotgun with weapon light
i voted.
Only two men ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. Defend your rights or lose them forever.
Shotgun.. Nothing like the spray of BB's coming at you..
But it can't be a long barrel.. Here, my soon to be home defense to go along with my alarm security..
Mossberg 500 tactical:
that looks like a breaching shotgun to me ?!?!?!
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
I've been having trouble finding that gun. Well, with the options I want (18.5" barrell, pistol grip).Shotgun.. Nothing like the spray of BB's coming at you..
But it can't be a long barrel.. Here, my soon to be home defense to go along with my alarm security..
Mossberg 500 tactical:
The tip? I love it!
Pistol grip:
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/31
ya the tip and the lack of a butt stock, u see these exact models on the backs of swat guys that handle door breaches. I guess u could shoot people wiht it too, hahah
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
^ Yeah, good luck shooting ducks with that, but for home defense? Perfect and you can break windows to go outside and flank him.. HAHAHAH thinking way too much into it..
On a more serious note lol. Generally you shouldnt clear your own house if you have family/friends in the house, instead you should organize your family behind you in the same room and let the BG come to you. Now if your single and by yourself, I guess you could clear the house if you really want.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
PUMP action mossberg or remington shotgun, the light is optional( i voted for it), but PUMP is the key.
you shouldnt have to shoot it if they hear the *click-clack* of a shotshell being chambered..... shoot if you like, since, by law you can.
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Tons of flaws with the "racking the shotgun will make the BG piss his pants" myth.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
I dont know how much of a myth it is. I know that if I was in someone elses house and heard that sound I would shit myself on the way out the door/window/doggy door.
the only flaw i can see is racking an empty shotgun.....
EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!!
I guess some people need to do some research and have never taken any firearms classes at all.
"Racking a shotgun" is not going to make an intruder run away. Its a proven fact that 90% of the time they will get more aggressive in there intent. Anywho.. I love short shotguns (splatter guns) for there purpose but for the ultimate pick it up off the stand point and shoot its harder to finagle a shotgun from behind a nightstand or behind a door than it is to pick up a pistol and squeeze the trigger. my
Only two men ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. Defend your rights or lose them forever.
Just a few off the top of my head:
- you give your position away, the element of surprise is one of the best advantages you can have.
- your either racking out a perfectly good round onto the floor or your storing your gun as less than its full capacity. either options is not acceptable imo.
- mindset. gun fights are mental fights mostly. Picking up a gun hoping that the sight, or sound of your weapon solves the problem is a common misconception. Normally its safe to assume that the situation will escalate after a weapon is introduced by either party. A great source on mindsetl is Jeff Cooper.
To kind of go off on a tangent. There is a process the brain has and a word phrase given to it by an old fighter pilot (cant remember, sorry) where your brain essentially has to take the visual and audible information, compile and analyze it, and react in that order. Racking a shotgun can put u on the bad end of this, his movement in reaction to the sound will reset your brains loop, dramatically decreasing your reaction time to pull the trigger. The idea is to reset the opponents loop, not yours. This can be accomplished by turning on your tac light, and taking 1-3 steps to your side, then firing (just one of many examples). The light, and movement on your part will reset his loop and give you a split seconds advantage before his brain can recalculate whats going and where his threat (you) is and traveling to.
Wish i could remember the name of that brain process but i cant.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
both are valid points, but they dont mean that the sound wont intimidate someone..... you may lose your element of surprise, only partially maybe but the intruder definitely knows you mean business....
and as far as magazine capacity goes.... if you cant hit the sum'bitch with 5 rounds at 10 yards you have a SERIOUS problem.....
the only problem i can see if you dont have your 5+1 or 7+1 on you is when theres more than a few intruders.
EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!!
Shotgun is the best over-all cause you really dont have to aim to hit your target at close range if you got buck shot in it. but if you have a small house with alot of corners, a handgun would be best.
Life begins at 6000 RPMS.. You will notice an audible change in engine noise, large increase in acceleration and any female passengers will immidiately start to remove their clothing.
I keep one in the chamber, no need to rack. I don't have kids though.
Handguns should be used to fight your way to your shotgun.
im not gonna even go into this one. ill leave that to someone else
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
If the intruder's goal is simply to rob you, I feel like the sound would give him second thoughts. Now granted, if the intruder is in your house and their only purpose is to kill you, I'd agree with your assessment.I guess some people need to do some research and have never taken any firearms classes at all.
"Racking a shotgun" is not going to make an intruder run away. Its a proven fact that 90% of the time they will get more aggressive in there intent. Anywho.. I love short shotguns (splatter guns) for there purpose but for the ultimate pick it up off the stand point and shoot its harder to finagle a shotgun from behind a nightstand or behind a door than it is to pick up a pistol and squeeze the trigger. my
However, since you probably are not going to know a home intruder's intent, I'd think the logical thing to do would be remain silent and in one location, with your gun pointed at the door/hallway and your finger on the trigger.
You always have to aim. At anything less than 25ft a 00 buck spread pattern is minimal. So it is imperative that you AIM with ANY weapon.Shotgun is the best over-all cause you really dont have to aim to hit your target at close range if you got buck shot in it. but if you have a small house with alot of corners, a handgun would be best.
Tom
genuis..
You obviously aren't going to shoot it straight down..
My 1911 w the power ball ammo i purchased.
Jason..
Voted, But there is an option missing. I have two P/AOC ( Protection/Attack On Command) trained German shepherds, both are still pretty young ( 6 months old) but at full size they should be 120+ lbs. A shotgun with a tactical light would nicely supplement the teeth.
Try not. Do or Do not.
just dont hit the pooches.... best thing is if your dogs are quiet up until the time they sink their teeth into the intruders ass..... or whatever they happen to bite.
EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!!
They are all but silent but they like to give chase and they are very fast. The Female tend to go for the face actually and the male prefers the neck, they usually try to get around the bite sleeve when they are training, I don't know why the trainer gets so nervous. I'll take some pics next time we are at the trainers.
Try not. Do or Do not.
cool man
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Ok? Hey Genuis, how about you stop trying to be a smart ass all the time. I'm referring to people who think they can shoot from the hip, or just shoot in someone's general direction and still get destructive hits.genuis..
You obviously aren't going to shoot it straight down..
Tom
Exactly like expressed in the original post that you corrected, with a different wording for you: with a shotgun, there is a lot more leeway in your shots..
Again,
oh stop yer' bickerin'
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Revolver..
Please send me the information about where you go to get yours trained. I have an almost 2 yr old that I don't have time to train myself.
call world class k-9 in grayson. I got my pit train there. Also sander kennel I sold him a dog years a go
Please send me the information about where you go to get yours trained. I have an almost 2 yr old that I don't have time to train myself.
I'd day pistol. Much easier to handle in a tactical situation like clearing your own house. More rounds, quicker fire rate, quicker reload.
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