the mayan calender and 2012

[Maniacc]

astronomers talk of the galactic alignment, though other models people have shown its actually just our view from earth on the sunrise that morning. the sun does have cycles which involve cycles of like 26million years, just as the earth has cycles. there are several places talking of galactic alignment, not just stuff on tv. for example did you know that every 11 years the sun has a magnetic pole shift. look it up, look up the patters for it and how they are different than what we have seen to date, it may not mean anything at all, did you also know we had a megnetic pole shift on earth in like 98 or 99.

Do you honestly think I have no idea about 2012 or any of the assumptions that people are throwing out there?

Okay, so one thing that keeps coming up is the whole galactic alignment, right? How we'll pass through the center of our galaxy. Well, check this out. Here's a representative picture(obviously not our actual galaxy):



We are about 25,000 light years away from the center, and we aren't even headed in that general direction. So that 'theory' is pretty much outta the question. But I'm sure you knew that already...

I'm also sure that you've heard about the whole Nibiru being the Planet X and how it's going to come close to Earth or something like that - right? You've probably heard the whole claim that Nibiru would somehow cause global catastrophe by lining up with the Sun, correct? You realize that another planet's gravity will have no effect on us whatever its orientation, right? Even Jupiter won't, and it's by far the biggest planet. You're getting more gravitational pull from your computer monitor than Jupiter can exert on you.

Newton just pwned that theory.




Haha, seriously let's put it this way; if Nibiru passes through our solar system every 6000 years, then means it has brought destruction to the Earth - over 750,000 times! So scratch that 'theory' outta the list.

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Now let us continue with the Sun's cycle.

The Sun goes through this cycle all the time and indications show that the next one 'may' be a little higher than average. But the one in the 60s was the biggest ever recorded. So why didn't we fry then? Also the people that make these 'predictions' are doing just that, guessing, with a little bit of added data they've gathered to bring down the error factor. They'll probably freely admit they couldn't tell you with any certainty what was going to happen on the surface of the sun tomorrow let alone in 3 years.

What causes storms on the Sun are solar flares and Sun spots. Those are a few that effect Earth. There are always periods of zero Sun spot activity.

In spending 2 minutes and clicking through the archive dates on Spaceweather.com I can find many times when there has been 0 sun spots. Yet why is this a problem now when it hasn't been over the entire history of our planet? Solar activity increases, then decreases. At most enough extra radiation gets through to 'cause minor mutations in large organisms and sometimes bigger ones in viruses.

Let's see... what's next? Oh, polar shifts!!

Polar shifts - they're nothing but a hypothesis. The real effect is called geomagnetic reversal. After reading about that you'll see there is really nothing to worry about since it has happened numerous times before.

So in conclusion I've pretty much owned you and streetspeed's whole 2012 theories and 'guesses' in less than 40 mins. How does it feel?

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Do you honestly think I have no idea about 2012 or any of the assumptions that people are throwing out there?

Okay, so one thing that keeps coming up is the whole galactic alignment, right? How we'll pass through the center of our galaxy. Well, check this out. Here's a representative picture(obviously not our actual galaxy):



We are about 25,000 light years away from the center, and we aren't even headed in that general direction. So that 'theory' is pretty much outta the question. But I'm sure you knew that already...

I'm also sure that you've heard about the whole Nibiru being the Planet X and how it's going to come close Earth or something like that - right? You've probably heard the whole claim that Nibiru would somehow cause global catastrophe by lining up with the Sun, correct? You realize that another planet's gravity will have no effect on us whatever its orientation, right? Even Jupiter won't, and it's by far the biggest planet. You're getting more gravitational pull from your computer monitor than Jupiter can exert on you.

Newton just pwned that theory.



Haha, seriously let's put it this way; if Nibiru passes through our solar system every 6000 years, then means it has brought destruction to the Earth - over 750,000 times! So scratch that 'theory' outta the list.

....

Now let us continue with the Sun's cycle.

The Sun goes through this cycle all the time and indications show that the next one 'may' be a little higher than average. But the one in the 60s was the biggest ever recorded. So why didn't we fry then? Also the people that make these 'predictions' are doing just that, guessing, with a little bit of added data they've gathered to bring down the error factor. They'll probably freely admit they couldn't tell you with any certainty what was going to happen on the surface of the sun tomorrow let alone in 3 years.

What causes storms on the Sun are solar flares and Sun spots. Those are a few that effect Earth. There are always periods of zero Sun spot activity.

In spending 2 minutes and clicking through the archive dates on Spaceweather.com I can find many times when there has been 0 sun spots. Yet why is this a problem now when it hasn't been over the entire history of our planet? Solar activity increases, then decreases. At most enough extra radiation gets through to 'cause minor mutations in large organisms and sometimes bigger ones in viruses.

Let's see... what's next? Oh, polar shifts!!

Polar shifts - they're nothing but a hypothesis. The real effect is called geomagnetic reversal. After reading about that you'll see there is really nothing to worry about since it has happened numerous times before.

So in conclusion I've pretty much owned you and streetspeed's whole 2012 theories and 'guesses' in less than 30 mins. How does it feel?

you didn't own anything, actually you took the context waaay further out than i would nave, planet X i think is BS, in regards to the sun spots and flares, we had a big one in the 60s, but after recorded data which doesn't go that far back, the sun spots are coming out at a different degree on the sun and with more intensity than what we normally see, doesnt mean the world is going to end. this might explain global warming, and the warming of our solar system, look at mars for example. the galactic alignment is basically the sun rises in the plane of the galactic equator, and in the line of sight of the glactic buldge on the start of the winter solstice that morning, happens every 6500 yrs roughly, last time it was the summer solstice though. the whole lining up thing is about a 35 year process which we have started for 15yrs os so(global warming). basically what most of this means to me is global warming is BS b/c our whole solar system is unfreezing. with the position we are in technically we would rec'v more radiation/energy from the center of the galaxy(kind of like the equator on earth) which can have an effect on the earth, sun, hell the whole solar system. so you didn't own a theory b/c i never once have said the world is going to end. period. i simply was talking about cycles, we have seen throug hhistory the planet has heated and cooled etc depending on where we are in the galaxy, etc. we might get a massive solar flare that we will see this low in the hemishpere at night like the northern lights, or it could cook us. look on natgeo's website about the solar system warming. BTW the new age most refer to is the age of aquarius.

[Maniacc]

you didn't own anything, actually you took the context waaay further out than i would nave, planet X i think is BS, in regards to the sun spots and flares, we had a big one in the 60s, but after recorded data which doesn't go that far back, the sun spots are coming out at a different degree on the sun and with more intensity than what we normally see, doesnt mean the world is going to end. this might explain global warming, and the warming of our solar system, look at mars for example. the galactic alignment is basically the sun rises in the plane of the galactic equator, and in the line of sight of the glactic buldge on the start of the winter solstice that morning, happens every 6500 yrs roughly, last time it was the summer solstice though. the whole lining up thing is about a 35 year process which we have started for 15yrs os so(global warming). basically what most of this means to me is global warming is BS b/c our whole solar system is unfreezing. with the position we are in technically we would rec'v more radiation/energy from the center of the galaxy(kind of like the equator on earth) which can have an effect on the earth, sun, hell the whole solar system. so you didn't own a theory b/c i never once have said the world is going to end. period. i simply was talking about cycles, we have seen throug hhistory the planet has heated and cooled etc depending on where we are in the galaxy, etc. we might get a massive solar flare that we will see this low in the hemishpere at night like the northern lights, or it could cook us. look on natgeo's website about the solar system. BTW the new age most refer to is the age of aquarius.

lmfao, I'm sure it took you close to an hour to type all of that down.

@ the age of aquarius! Who the fuck said anything about the New Age? This isn't a thread about Zeitgeist, you delusional fuck!

[preferredduck]

lmfao, I'm sure it took you close to an hour to type all of that down.

@ the age of aquarius! Who the fuck said anything about the New Age? This isn't a thread about Zeitgeist, you delusional fuck!

no it only took abt 10 minutes or less, the age being refered to would be what the myan and many other religions call THE END. look back through history and you will always see a reference to the astrological age of that time period. after reading some of your other posts you may b delusional aswell, read my first post thouroughly to see the reference. thanks for your input, seems someone like to argue and entertain others. roflauda

[Maniacc]

no it only took abt 10 minutes or less, the age being refered to would be what the myan and many other religions call THE END. look back through history and you will always see a reference to the astrological age of that time period. after reading some of your other posts you may b delusional aswell, read my first post thouroughly to see the reference. thanks for your input, seems someone like to argue and entertain others. roflauda

You have not posted anything that I haven't already 'heard' or 'read.'

Thanks for wasting my time.

[preferredduck]

You have not posted anything that I haven't already 'heard' or 'read.'

Thanks for wasting my time.

WELL THEN IF YOU KNOW IT ALL WHY WASTE YOUR TIME ON THE THREAD, OR WHY BOTHER POSTING, IT'S A DOUBLE NEGATIVE.

[One_Bad_SHO]

Regardless, all we can do is theorize on what we believe will happen given the so called facts floating around. No use in arguing about something no one can accurately predict.

Lets just bump this thread in 3 yrs, k?

[GTScoob]

Nice post alex. I was just going to hop in here and say about the same thing. The mayan calendar is a FINITE SYSTEM of interlocking rings. They predict a major change in the world but do not say that the world will end. Considering the increasing speed of global events this is a very legitimate prediction.

The status quo of international relations sat relatively unchanged after the Treaty of Westphalia for almost 200 yrs before democracy became widespread, then WWI showed that a global war could occur. WWII proved that east-west relations subvert to those of differing ideologies, then the Cold War proved to tear apart all peaceful means earlier. The end of the cold war ushered in an era of global peace with no obvious enemy and then of course 9/11 made international terror public enemy number 1. Some think that 2012 could be an end to nuclear proliferation or a completely international economy, ushering in global peace, others think that it will be the beginning of WWIII, either way it will be a new world. You all can blame Obama for everything come 2012, dont worry.

If you want to look into it more, I highly recommend checking out the Palinque ruins in the south Yucatan, it is the site where they have found the most mathematical data relating the stars and calendars. Beautiful jungle scenery as well as an excellent museum discussing the calendar, and also the Mayan equivalent of the finding of King Tut's tomb (Pakal for those who care).

Just because the people were ancient does not mean they were any dumber, they just had different tools and skillsets.