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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this debate. I am personally athiest. I was raised to go to church and the rest of my family is a very christian group. I found while i was growing up that i didnt agree with alot of the christian guidelines and that religion didnt answer alot of questions in life. I trust my own judgement to decide what is right and what is wrong, not a book.
    Agreed, as was the same for me, although I consider myself agnostic. I think it's kick-ass that you decided forself. The really interesting part for me is that I'm betting, statistically speaking, the majority of Christian are so because that's what they were taught their whole life. Had the same individual been from India, they'd probably be Hindu, Jewish if from Isreal, and Islamic if from Saudi Arabia. They were born into their belief/religion/faith, etc, and typically they are merely hoping to justify or reaffirm their own beliefs instead of honestly questioning those beliefs. I know there are exceptions to that rule. There are those that "found God" in prison, or some other tramatic event in their life happened and they need something to cling to, but statisically speaking, I'm right. That's why religion affiliation for the most part is very geographical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncturnal
    Agreed, as was the same for me, although I consider myself agnostic. I think it's kick-ass that you decided forself. The really interesting part for me is that I'm betting, statistically speaking, the majority of Christian are so because that's what they were taught their whole life. Had the same individual been from India, they'd probably be Hindu, Jewish if from Isreal, and Islamic if from Saudi Arabia. They were born into their belief/religion/faith, etc, and typically they are merely hoping to justify or reaffirm their own beliefs instead of honestly questioning those beliefs.
    100% agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncturnal
    statistically speaking, the majority of Christian are so because that's what they were taught their whole life. Had the same individual been from India, they'd probably be Hindu, Jewish if from Isreal, and Islamic if from Saudi Arabia. They were born into their belief/religion/faith, etc, and typically they are merely hoping to justify or reaffirm their own beliefs
    incidentally this is what made me originally question christianity. all through the news id heard of religious wars in the middle east.. baptism in the southeast, catholics in south america, budhism and other religions in asia - everyone is so dead set that their religion is right.. but suppose there is a god and he is a christian. have all other religions lived their lives in vain? is there a possibility in more than one supreme being?

    then i started to question myself.. aside from faith, what basis do a majority of religions have in believing in god? their upbringing? some have claimed to have had talks with god. but i know that ive personally had dreams and saw things.. but brain activity during sleep is scientifically proven.

    i think that religion was devised to comfort people. its used to explain what isnt explainable at the time by science, and to help people deal with mortality, and that after life there is nothing else.

    i believe in coincidence.. that good things happen and that bad things happen. its a cycle. i however do not believe in fate or that things happen for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    i believe in coincidence.. that good things happen and that bad things happen. its a cycle. i however do not believe in fate or that things happen for a reason.
    Exactly. Shit happens as they say. So many people always say "When it's your time....", which is a total crock. If everything was predetermined, there would be no benefit from wearing seatbelts, eating well, not smoking, etc. It has been statistically proven that those habits will generally increase your longevity. Life is all about the decisions you make, with a twist of chance mixed in. That's just one of the many examples of illogical ideals believed by major religions that I disagree with. With most discussions I've had with religious people, I can beat them with their own logic using their very own beliefs. By all means though, if it makes you feel better, have at it. I'm happy to have the opportunity to live this life, and it's not any less worthwhile if this life is all there is to it.
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