View Poll Results: Best gun in SHTF scenairo

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  • AR-15

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Thread: Ok, this should get this section going AR-15 VS AK-47

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    I'm pretty biased towards the AR platform (from vast experience) and also cuz it puts the roof over my head and bread on the table.

    Last edited by 81911SC; 04-02-2009 at 12:21 AM.
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    i cannot answer that question really.... ive got both. ive shot both. on the basis of reliability i would go with an AK.....


    coolness and looks, AR.
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    diff strokes for diff folks

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    i had to even up the poll.... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    i had to even up the poll.... lol

    one more for the good team!
    "The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."

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    guess who was looking for ar parts as of late....


    THE FRENCH FROG!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

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    Ohh french frog, you have some hidden ar love! hahahaha. You a closet ar lover, just come out allready..... lol
    "The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."

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    i am going to have to hire someone to help me with my books here soon. i just got another order for 5 more lowers today. wow.. its getting busy.. now i just need the cash.
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    ill help u, but with the books... ehhhhh.....
    "The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."

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    why.. the lowers arent hard to build.
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    didnt say they were lol.

    do u have supply to build 5 lowers?
    "The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."

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    3 yes.. 5 no.. i am waiting on an order to come in.
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    neither... AR10 FTW!!!!!
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    same dirty crap-in-the-chamber gas system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    the ar platform has changed alot since vietnam, its a whole new weapon in terms of reliability compared to back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    neither... AR10 FTW!!!!!
    So you know....
    Last edited by DaX; 04-30-2009 at 02:10 PM.

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    for plinking, AR15
    for SHTF, AK

    sorry an AR will not ever have the durability of an AK, period.

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    Yeah, I really like both platforms. I'm not a big fan of .223, but it is plentiful so for SHTF, it would be a good choice. Really, my AK-47 is my zombie assault weapon. .308 is my SHTF long range weapon, and my Taurus 9mm my zombie pistol.
    Last edited by DaX; 06-12-2009 at 06:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttman
    for plinking, AR15
    for SHTF, AK
    QFT

    but i have something better..

    IF SHTF I would go with the Saiga 12

    Sorry.. but pretty much on point....




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    ^^^^I love the Saiga 12. My next gun purchase will probably either be a Romanian PSL or a Saiga 12 and get all the Tromix goodies for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttman
    sorry an AR will not ever have the durability of an AK, period.
    Uhh, actually it can and is because now they make piston operation kits for the AR which makes it just as reliable, if not more reliable than an AK.

    Life begins at 6000 RPMS.. You will notice an audible change in engine noise, large increase in acceleration and any female passengers will immidiately start to remove their clothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E46_Ace
    Uhh, actually it can and is because now they make piston operation kits for the AR which makes it just as reliable, if not more reliable than an AK.
    I'd have to see it to possibly believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 81911SC
    I'd have to see it to possibly believe it.
    This is HK's version of an m4 that's piston operated. Its called the HK 416. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpZryZEiY4

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    TOTALLY WRONG.

    piston ARs are very problematic and UNproven. look up CARRIER TILT + AR15 newbie. a piston AR will NEVER EVER have the reliability of an AK, period. I also remember reading (@ arfcom) about the HK416s having defects with cracking.

    Quote Originally Posted by E46_Ace
    Uhh, actually it can and is because now they make piston operation kits for the AR which makes it just as reliable, if not more reliable than an AK.

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    I voted AK, mainly for reliabilty and punch.
    The AR is kickass, but takes a lot of maintenance.
    The AK can be tossed in the mud for a year, given a quick cleaning and goes to town, it just lacks the accuracy.
    I guess it just comes to preference.

    BTW the Ak with the 203 is just awesome.

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    AR's are no where near as unreliable as ppl make them out to be. Just putting that out there. 1 grain of sand will not cause a malfunction, contrary to popular belief. They do need to be lubed to function at 100%, but I lube and clean all my guns regularly, so that's not really an issue. And AK's are not inaccurate, they just don't have very good ballistics due to their heavy bullet. The 7.62 will have more drop and be affected by wind way more than the .223/5.56 round, especially at +200 yards. Both have their ups and downs and this debate will never be ended. It's like the 9mm/40/45 debate, or the 1911 vs. 45 long colt debate.


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    GAU 5.. Had to throw it in the race. It's the weapon we are issued.. Basically a M4, but has AUTO capability.


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    SiRed,
    I did not mean the AR's are unreliable, just not as reliable as an AK, IMO.
    I did have the chance to test a Russian full auto AK and a full auto M16 in the same day, both military versions.
    My response was based on that test.
    Both are kick ass, but I don't have much experience with the semi auto version of each.
    I do plan on buying one of each though, sometime this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E46_Ace
    This is HK's version of an m4 that's piston operated. Its called the HK 416. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpZryZEiY4
    If it's made by H&K, its bad ass. Period.
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    ak47 ftw

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    ak fo lyfe
    AK is more than a weapon, its a symbol of various rebel factions around the world.

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