if there happens to be aliens out there would you still believe the bible?
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if there happens to be aliens out there would you still believe the bible?
Val for President
in the Quran, it says there are other intelligent beings in the universe, but Mankind is superior to all of God's creations.Originally Posted by Hulud
Paul had brought up this subject in another thread and I don't quite follow.
How IF aliens exist does that put a damper on the Bible?
A book that is written by man that says man is superior, what a shock. It also puts women beneath men and the penalties are harsh. Maybe I can have a bunch of virgins when I die.
Don't you think you could've worded that differently? It would be less inflamatory if you did.
Your absolutely right. I am just pissed right now and it came out in what I typed. Didn't really think about as I typed it.
Thank you.
belief in aliens shouldnt change ones beliefe in the bible. ezekiel referenced to the possibility of aliens didnt it ?? or one mans experience with them
Is thier proof of scripture in the bible that mentiones aliens? I'd be curious to read it.
Swifty
+10 wow (don't normal get that type of response)
can u find that please? thanks
cause in genisis all it says is that god made the sun and stars i didnt know there was more just let me know please
Val for President
well Hulud - your right - in Genesis it does state that he created the universe - it never states anything beyond that - so maybe other life is included in the universe - I wouldn't be surprise because as the Bible states, God wants us to prosper, so sooner or later that might mean moving beyond our own solar boundaries, and who knows
you have to remember - alien life form could be bacteria, could be a plant, or it could be some freaky 6 legged purple zebra with 8 eyes and 3 tongues, or those little green and grey men - everyone just stereotypes aliens with what you see in movies, you gotta think beyond the stereotype - just ANY form of life would account for being alien life
and as Einstein put it
" The idea that there is other life in the Universe is astounding;
The idea that we might be the only life in the Universe is equally as shocking."
... or something like that
im not trying to start a fight.. but why should he have worded that differently.. i mean im sure people really do beleive in the religion they follow.. but bottom line is.. its the truth.. for what we DO know. it is just another book written by man.. that places man in 1st place
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There are no aliens, the giants way back in the day were the closest thing to aliens we will ever know of.
Just about the entire 1st chapter of Ezekiel is about wheel shaped objects with creatures with the likeness of man inside of them. Also, there is mention in ezekiel ch 10
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The Bible mentions the creation of God as "worlds"...plural, more then one.
Its quite reasonable to assume that these worlds contain life as creating nothing but lifeless worlds would be pointless. Such life would be "alien" to us as in "not of our world". So the answer Huluds question, yes I would still believe the Bible, in fact life from other planets, galaxies etc would actually confirm creation.
so your saying that you know for certain (100%) that there are no aliens?
thats kind of egotistic dont you think?
believing without a doubt that the ENTIRE universe(s) were created just for the beings on earth. i mean theres all this space and its only meant for beings on the earth?
Val for President
You mentioned worlds. I assume you are refering to Hebrew 1:2. and 11:3 the word is 'aion' in the greek and means- an age, i.e. an earth age.
This makes sense if someone belives in different earth ages
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Egotistical or Not! Yes, that is what I believe.so your saying that you know for certain (100%) that there are no aliens?
thats kind of egotistic dont you think?
believing without a doubt that the ENTIRE universe(s) were created just for the beings on earth. i mean theres all this space and its only meant for beings on the earth?to only GOD!
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if you believe the bible was written by man.
i suppose you also believe jesus was crucified by man, since it is well written in the bible.
egotistical yes there is no NOT about what you postedEgotistical or Not! Yes, that is what I believe.
did i ever say to bow down to aliens? :confused:
Val for President
is that a retorical question? of course it was written/manipulated by man, it is nothing more than a bunch of gospels compiled into one book; which was not printed until 1000+ years after the death of jesus.
and yes man crucified jesus.
if you believe that.. how do you not believe he came to die for our sins?
if you believe the stories in the bible about how jesus was crucified by man, how doyou not believe what he did was true?
do you think people would lie, for good or bad, about a messiah?
simple he was merely a man
he was man, did some good, people embelish.....if you believe the stories in the bible about how jesus was crucified by man, how doyou not believe what he did was true?
i think my last comment will answer this toodo you think people would lie, for good or bad, about a messiah?
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Jesus was an alien.
indeed, I believe I made a similar comment.
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doing SOME good.
i dont think bringing someone back from death is SOME good.
curing a blind man, etc etc.
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and i concur.. how does aliens exisiting put a damper on the bible?
as i said in my previous statement
PEOPLE EMBELISH
i never said it dampered i was asking what you would thinkand i concur.. how does aliens exisiting put a damper on the bible?
Val for President
EZEKIEL 1:4- 1:24
"And I looked, and behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst therof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
(verse 5) Also out of the midst therof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
(verse 6) And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
(verse 7) And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf s foot and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
(verse 8) And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
(verse 9) Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
(verse 10) As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
(verse 11) Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
(verse 12) And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went
(verse 13) As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
(verse 14) And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
(verse 15) Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
(verse 16) The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a middle of a wheel.
(verse 17) When they went they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went
(verse 18) As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
(verse 19) And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
(verse 20) Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 21) When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
(verse 22) And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
(verse 23) And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side their bodies. (verse 24) And when they went I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters; as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host when the: stood they let down their wings."
but this could be also interpreted as not aliens, but angelic type beings, though could'nt one argument be that angels/aliens are possibly the same thing ?? it's all a matter of perception.
in your statement, i see a question that i've havent had answered. if christians believe in one god. why is it that in every church, there is at least 2 pictures of jesus? and after 90% of prayers i've participated in, the last thing said is, "in jesus name, amen....."? seems to me like the man gets more praise than the god. could someone clarify that ?Egotistical or Not! Yes, that is what I believe.
As far as the 2 pictures of jesus? I have no Idea, I have not stepped foot in a church in years.
Why do we pray in the name of Jesus and why He is so important.
1 Tim 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
KJV
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh! And every christian prayer should end in the name of Jesus Christ . Why?
John 14:6-7
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
KJV
Plain and simple. We are God's Children and He wants us to accept Him.
He was born into this flesh and paid the price for our sins as Jesus Christ on the cross where He died. We pray in the name of Jesus Christ to acknowledge to the Father that we accept His sacrafice. He is Our Passover!
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umm i think aliens would just be ignored by the church just like they ignore dinosaur bones
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To add to what Jason04srt4 has already indicated Jesus IS God, the mystery of the Godhead is not easy for humans to understand but it entails 3 entities which are One and act as one, according to Scripture.
I know many christians that don't ignore dinasour bones at all, in fact I am not familiar with any that ignore them. The trouble is evolutionists try to attach some "proof" to them that really isn't there at all.
FYI, dinasour related fossil evidence and human related fossil evidence have been found in the same strata (layer) of earth/rock. Both have been found with their foot prints intermingled. This should be no suprise given the fact a current living snail has been carbon dated to be 27,000 years old!
So much for carbon dating and the other nonsense evolutionists use to "prove" their theorys.
How is Jesus God, when he is supposed to be the son of God? Is he his own Dad?
That would mean that the people in Alabama had it right all along and the rest of the world was wrong that incest is best....in some weird way. Later, QD.
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its not that jesus IS god
its the trinity.
holy spirit, jesus, and god
iirc.. basically like a court system.. in order to the trinity as listed on the prev. line.
holy spirit =messenger(those police officer guy who gives the judge stuff)
jesus =attorney (prays for us, etc. etc.)
god =judge
these are very basic to just give you an idea.
I'd certainly give scientology a second look.
im a christian and i love science.. how ironic
Like I said, the mystery of the Godhead is not easily understood...obviously youre no exception.
How can three 'persons' be one? Yet they are. Perhaps a better way to put it is that Jesus Christ is PART of God which entails 3 things, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. All 3 function together as One.
The confusing part to some (you too evidently) is that Christ is not a son in the earthly sense. He has always existed as part of God and is not a created being like an angel or human. In fact, He is the Creator.
Actually according to Scripture Christ is both mediator AND judge.
You might say that heavens court is 'rigged' in your favor.
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