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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    do you mean religion or christianity? basically your stating the bible word for word, and GLORIFY GOD would be a rule... as well as many other stated throughout the bible. i don't get you chuck you state that your not christian and you plan on going to hell yet you believe that GOD loves you (and you believe in GOD for that matter)???
    Wrong. Glorify God would be a choice, not rule.


    A lot of you act like we are slaves to religion. Religion is a choice. Your freedom. Your freedom to believe or not. There are guidelines, but not rules (you don't get fined, or punished).
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    wow cmon people...im sorry that didnt express this earlier..thats is a generic definition of MOST christians...the first to preach and the first to judge..you cant say im wrong...think about the hardcore christians in the bible belt...down home southern christians...guess what if your not white,they dont like you...the founder of the kkk was a christian..what a great thing to follow...i really could give 2 shits if you are a christian and are offended by this...the point was not to offend but offer a definition to those that dont believe what you do...im sorry to anyone who gets butthurt by this,but just remeber people have their own views on life and just because it doesnt relove around have faith(a belief in the unknown)doesnt mean that there reasoning or what they believe is necessarilly wrong....take someone that worships the darker side of life(satan)..are they wrong in believethat satan is god..no their not..to them they might find the same thing they have been looking for that christians look for in god!and i know for a fact that a christian would judge a satanist for being in the wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@d @pple
    wow cmon people...im sorry that didnt express this earlier..thats is a generic definition of MOST christians...the first to preach and the first to judge..you cant say im wrong...think about the hardcore christians in the bible belt...down home southern christians...guess what if your not white,they dont like you...the founder of the kkk was a christian..what a great thing to follow...i really could give 2 shits if you are a christian and are offended by this...the point was not to offend but offer a definition to those that dont believe what you do...im sorry to anyone who gets butthurt by this,but just remeber people have their own views on life and just because it doesnt relove around have faith(a belief in the unknown)doesnt mean that there reasoning or what they believe is necessarilly wrong....take someone that worships the darker side of life(satan)..are they wrong in believethat satan is god..no their not..to them they might find the same thing they have been looking for that christians look for in god!and i know for a fact that a christian would judge a satanist for being in the wrong!
    dude, seriously...people who say this just prove their ignorance to anyone who knows any better...the founder of the kkk wasn't christian...the founder of the kkk claimed to be christian. anyone can claim to be a christian and go to church, that's not hard at all...were you just trying to be funny or are you really just that naive??

    and no i don't judge a satainist for any reason, they believe what they want to believe...but on the other hand i'm not dumb enough to try to say "the real definition of a satanist is someone who hangs out with other satanists to try to feel accepted and loved and they try to do bad things to make satan love them and i know that john doe said that he was a satanist and we can all agree that he was an idiot so he must be a real satanist if he said he was and that would mean that all satanists are idiots" and really mean it, i would be respectful of a satanists views and before i dared to try and open my mouth and criticize their ways i would do some research so i could at least know what the fuck i was talking about, lol.
    ...are you begining to see how blind-sided, close minded, ignorant, hypocritical and judgemental you sound now???

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    dude, seriously...people who say this just prove their ignorance to anyone who knows any better...the founder of the kkk wasn't christian...the founder of the kkk claimed to be christian. anyone can claim to be a christian and go to church, that's not hard at all...were you just trying to be funny or are you really just that naive??

    and no i don't judge a satainist for any reason, they believe what they want to believe...but on the other hand i'm not dumb enough to try to say "the real definition of a satanist is someone who hangs out with other satanists to try to feel accepted and loved and they try to do bad things to make satan love them and i know that john doe said that he was a satanist and we can all agree that he was an idiot so he must be a real satanist if he said he was and that would mean that all satanists are idiots" and really mean it, i would be respectful of a satanists views and before i dared to try and open my mouth and criticize their ways i would do some research so i could at least know what the fuck i was talking about, lol.
    ...are you begining to see how blind-sided, close minded, ignorant, hypocritical and judgemental you sound now???
    Speak the truth my brother.

    "I really could give 2 shits if you are a christian and are offended by this"

    Was that necessary, I don't recall anyone saying they were offended by this, nor did we say anything remotely close to being "butthurt." Honestly, I don't really think anyone here is judging you or being closed minded about your opinion. We respect your beliefs and, frankly, don't care if you respect ours or not.
    We are merely trying to clear up your misconceptions about christianity, not trying to force you in to becoming one.

    "the founder of the kkk was a christian"

    There is a HUGE difference in saying you are a Christian and actually being a Christian. You don't believe everything you hear, do you? No, if people did that, many of us on here would never have been born because every single person would have believed Hitler when he said the Aryan race was superior.
    What you must understand is that in the South, when the KKK started, almost everyone was a strong Christian, and in order for the group to build a base, they had to claim to be Christian, otherwise nobody would have joined.


    Intermission, almost done here.


    "i know for a fact that a christian would judge a satanist for being in the wrong"

    This is very untrue, I have plenty of friends who are either Satanist or Atheist and it doesn't bother any of us at all... we simply don't bring up the subject. But you know what, I have had a couple of those friends talk to me about our different religions and 5 of them have converted and are living much happier lives, not as much fighting with parents, no more contemplating suicide. My goal though is not to make them into a Christian, I simply just wanted to help.

    And last but not least, I would just like to say:
    Don't knock it 'til you try it.

    I hope we can keep this thread civilized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    Wrong. Glorify God would be a choice, not rule.


    A lot of you act like we are slaves to religion. Religion is a choice. Your freedom. Your freedom to believe or not. There are guidelines, but not rules (you don't get fined, or punished).
    IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW RULES!!! if they weren't rules in your big book then you wouldn't be following them

    I have plenty of friends who are either Satanist or Atheist and it doesn't bother any of us at all...
    bahhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm sure you find many real practicing Satanist around here.

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    chuck i have been that guy with nothin but a cardboard box

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@d @pple
    chuck i have been that guy with nothin but a cardboard box
    ok, but i'm talking about the homeless people who worship god...i really don't think that they only love god because they want to feel accepted and have friends??
    but if you, or anyone else for that matter, want to go one monday just let me know, we go every monday and play music, pass out food and just talk to them...it's actually somewhat shocking to see some of them having so much faith in god considering the circumstances some of them are in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW RULES!!! if they weren't rules in your big book then you wouldn't be following them
    they aren't rules, they are just things that go along with being a christian...it'd be like being a weightlifter and saying that you don't work out, working out isn't really a RULE of being a weightlifter its just something you do if that's what you want to be...does that make sense at all or do we want to keep being difficult...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW RULES!!! if they weren't rules in your big book then you wouldn't be following them

    bahhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm sure you find many real practicing Satanist around here.
    NOT RULES, GUIDELINES !! If you do not know the difference may I suggest a dictionary. I can not help you otherwise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    NOT RULES, GUIDELINES !! If you do not know the difference may I suggest a dictionary. I can not help you otherwise...

    Whats with all the hostility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Tuning Tuner
    Whats with all the hostility?
    What hostility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    NOT RULES, GUIDELINES !! If you do not know the difference may I suggest a dictionary. I can not help you otherwise...
    i'm sure its a CHOICE, can you show me where it says in the bible you should not glorify god??? cause glorifying god is brought up and infinate amount of times in the bible.... you sugar coat it and call it what you want but it is a RULE... if you don't glorify god you are doing the opposite.

    christianity is based on rules, if you disagree w/ that then you need a dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    i'm sure its a CHOICE, can you show me where it says in the bible you should not glorify god??? cause glorifying god is brought up and infinate amount of times in the bible.... you sugar coat it and call it what you want but it is a RULE... if you don't glorify god you are doing the opposite.

    christianity is based on rules, if you disagree w/ that then you need a dictionary.
    LOL oh my my my......

    Christianity IS believing in God ! Call it a rule if you will. I call it a DEFINITION of Christianity. And in order to "glorify" God as you put it, we have the bible as our "guide book".

    It is not about sugar coating. If you are a doctor, you cure patients. Is that a rule? Or a definition that goes with what you do??? If you are a firefighter, you put out fires. Is that a rule? Do you HAVE to do it because it is MANDATED by a "higher power" or do you DO it because THAT is WHAT YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO? That is your Job right? If you do not want to do it you don't. You then make a CHOICE to go work in an office etc. Same with Christianity. OF COURSE you have to glorify God, not because of a RULE but because of THAT IS WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO as a Christian. You can not "not glorify" God and still be a christian. You can not "Start" fires and be a pyromaniac and call yourself a "Firefighter".

    Follow, Mr. Miriam Webster??
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    bahhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm sure you find many real practicing Satanist around here.
    They aren't hardcore or anything, like they don't go killing animals, but two of them have pentagram tattoos (which I assume they will get covered once they grow out of the phase) that they swear by.

    I don't appreciate the sarcasm (or insult, which ever you would like to call it), and I really wouldn't expect it from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    They aren't hardcore or anything, like they don't go killing animals, but two of them have pentagram tattoos (which I assume they will get covered once they grow out of the phase) that they swear by.

    I don't appreciate the sarcasm (or insult, which ever you would like to call it), and I really wouldn't expect it from you.
    most people don't even know what satanism is... and just b/c someone has pentagram tatoos doesn't mean they are satanist. they could very much be wicca or just a tatoo on some guy. either way i would go as far to say that the guys you know haven't even read the satanic bible. satanism has less to do w/ the devil and more about self worship (which is basically the devil to christians)

    either way don't take offense to it, by what you said you don't know anything about satanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    they could very much be wicca
    There we go, that's what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    most people don't even know what satanism is... and just b/c someone has pentagram tatoos doesn't mean they are satanist. they could very much be wicca or just a tatoo on some guy. either way i would go as far to say that the guys you know haven't even read the satanic bible. satanism has less to do w/ the devil and more about self worship (which is basically the devil to christians)

    either way don't take offense to it, by what you said you don't know anything about satanism.
    once again...they aren't rules, they are just things that go along with being a christian...it'd be like being a weightlifter and saying that you don't work out, working out isn't really a RULE of being a weightlifter its just something you do if that's what you want to be...does that make sense at all or do we want to keep being difficult...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    once again...they aren't rules, they are just things that go along with being a christian...it'd be like being a weightlifter and saying that you don't work out, working out isn't really a RULE of being a weightlifter its just something you do if that's what you want to be...does that make sense at all or do we want to keep being difficult...lol


    How in the hell do you figure that to be true? LMAO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Tuning Tuner
    How in the hell do you figure that to be true? LMAO...
    because it certianlly isn't false...the christian thing nor the example

    can you answer my big letter question now??

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