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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    well i have never read where it speaks of sins as a lifestyle, can you please quote the bible, b/c now at this point the topic is getting far behind the bible and into the realm of i think it is this way so it is so.

    all sins are a lifestyle, b/c they are loosly used as we can see, but from how your making it sound then is that being gay is the only sin lifestyle.
    Wait a minute.....didn't you +10 somebody who said that "the lack of proof is not proof of the opposite..."??????? Now, you demand proof before you believe something that is clearly stated in the bible (homo=sin)? Can't have it both ways Paul. One discussion, the one about the bible's truth, you say the bible is false, yet now you will take a bible verse as proof positive that something is so????? Like I said before, "proof" is in the eye of the beholder. You guys that don't believe will never have any "proof" big or small that will ever satisfy you at all of anything.

    Again, we can dance around it and microdisect it to death, but the bottomline is crystal clear in not only the Bible but every other "religion's" book of faith: Homosexuality is wrong and it's a sin. Period. No exceptions or loop holes. Is it forgivable? Technically, yes. How? By repentance. Repentance is not gotten by merely uttering the words as your last breath leaves your body for something like that. That applies to EVERY person breathing. Priests are no exception as neither are you. There is no gray area about it. It's like writing it with your hand and erasing it with your elbow. Forgiveness is not a ticket to sin freely. It's a guarantee that even though everyone sins, you can make it right. How and when is up to you to figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Wait a minute.....didn't you +10 somebody who said that "the lack of proof is not proof of the opposite..."??????? Now, you demand proof before you believe something that is clearly stated in the bible (homo=sin)? Can't have it both ways Paul. One discussion, the one about the bible's truth, you say the bible is false, yet now you will take a bible verse as proof positive that something is so????? Like I said before, "proof" is in the eye of the beholder. You guys that don't believe will never have any "proof" big or small that will ever satisfy you at all of anything.

    Again, we can dance around it and microdisect it to death, but the bottomline is crystal clear in not only the Bible but every other "religion's" book of faith: Homosexuality is wrong and it's a sin. Period. No exceptions or loop holes. Is it forgivable? Technically, yes. How? By repentance. Repentance is not gotten by merely uttering the words as your last breath leaves your body for something like that. That applies to EVERY person breathing. Priests are no exception as neither are you. There is no gray area about it. It's like writing it with your hand and erasing it with your elbow. Forgiveness is not a ticket to sin freely. It's a guarantee that even though everyone sins, you can make it right. How and when is up to you to figure out.
    bitch you like to get my shit mixed up... he was making it sound like homosexuality is a lifestyle SIN which basically can not be forgiven b/c it happens daily... i disagress w/ that b/c SIN is some thing daily you have to live w/, i ask for clarification.

    you have to remember this is a discussion, if i took the stance well i don't believe it so its not true, i could post that for everything and get away w/ it b/c why... i can' b/c i'm not christian... but i don't i try to make intelligent comments on what i know and believe. some of the comments in this thread basically were stating that gays can not go to heaven, i disagree w/ that, b/c being gay is a sin like lieing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    ...i disagree w/ that, b/c being gay is a sin like lieing...
    i don't know how i can explain it without you thinking the wrong thing...i know that a sin is a sin in gods eyes but if someone is gay then that is also not only a part of what they do but a part of WHO they are...they can ask for forgiveness for what they have done just as a liar can but until they change who they are as a person then the homosexuality (sin) will continue...

    but don't get me wrong...put it in the terms of the liar...someone who had lied can go to heavan just like someone who was gay...but if they are a cronic liar and lie on a daily basis then they are in a daily routine of a constant sin...

    someone who WAS gay can be saved from hell, someone who IS gay is going to hell...does that help clear anything up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    bitch you like to get my shit mixed up... he was making it sound like homosexuality is a lifestyle SIN which basically can not be forgiven b/c it happens daily... i disagress w/ that b/c SIN is some thing daily you have to live w/, i ask for clarification.
    You just don't like to be quoted is what it is.....

    Lifestyle or no lifestyle it's a sin to be gay, period. If you do it once or do it daily, it's a sin. If you don't think it's wrong and continue to do it forever, it's still a sin. If you do it and then change your mind and suddenly think its wrong and don't want to do it again and you ask for forgiveness, THEN you will be forgiven. It's not as easy as saying "forgive me" and then going home and having homosexual relations again. It's not like that at all. Refer to the definition of repent above. If anyone, including gays, change their sinning ways and ask for forgiveness, they will get it. That's the only simple part. The hard part is actually doing it.

    Everyone sins. Everyone may commit the same sin more than once. The difference is that not everyone ASKS to be forgiven AND more importantly TRIES to NOT do it AGAIN. That's the key.

    If I get drunk, knowing it's not right to do so, and ask to be forgiven I will be. If I go and get drunk again, I just erased it with my elbow then. I have to start over again. If I don't get drunk when I COULD therefore showing that I have some self-control, THEN I'm fulfilling my end of the bargain by TRYING to do better. Get it?


    some of the comments in this thread basically were stating that gays can not go to heaven, i disagree w/ that, b/c being gay is a sin like lieing...

    They are alike in that they are both sins. They are both forgiven the same way. If NOT forgiven, both will keep your from the same place as a sinner.

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