tracy...
no... Thou shalt not murder... another sin..... one of the ten commandments... that means they are killing themselves and assuring themselves a spot in hell.... (their blood is on there own heads)
tracy...
no... Thou shalt not murder... another sin..... one of the ten commandments... that means they are killing themselves and assuring themselves a spot in hell.... (their blood is on there own heads)
OK we posted at the same timeOriginally Posted by Killer
then why in the 10 commandment does it say thou shalt not kill?i guess it all depends on your definition of "ok"...before it (killing) was illegal it was actually a quite common practice
Then why does it say this?no woman. that is up for God to decide what happens to them and when. not for us to take it into our hands.
"They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
if u realy follow what the bible says it says judge and ye shall be jugded. So if ne one is judging ppl then they arent following what the bibles say and i wouldnt sweat what they are saying. as for the the gay thing, God said its wrong so he judged that already.Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
it doesnt say who is to put them to death though.Originally Posted by tracy
axemen and such were banished from the church, they were going to hell anyway...who cared if they commited sins??Originally Posted by tracy
i'm not saying it was condoned by the church to kill the gays, the church always wanted to reach out and "save" the gays...
the catholic church just wanted to reach out and touch little boys...lol, sorry, had to throw that in for some reason???
I believe that if you murder someone, then if you repent and confess...you shall be forgiven...
the only unforgivable sin I can recall is "blaspheme of the holy ghost (holy spirit)"...
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
tracy, admin, BTEC, SD STI LOVER, LaurenK, chuck, Killer, pharm_teg
dude this forum rules!
LOL!!!Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
You can be forgiven for any sin, as long as you realize it's wrong, and try to correct it by repenting...
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
excatly!!Originally Posted by LaurenK
you can be forgiven of a sin, but being forgiven isn't what gets you to heaven
and what about jesus being gay?? so much for that topic???
Acts 2:38 - Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
notice it doesn't say be baptized when you are born then repent when you are about to die...and having water sprinkled on your head isn't baptizim anyhow, hate to break it to anyone who might take offence to that
someone should really make a checklist...it'd be a lot easier...haha
but you can't live your life by the cross if you go against the bibles teachings...
and the bible says that homosexuality is wrong and not christ-like
exactly.....Originally Posted by chuck
people live in sin everyday, if you don't think so then your wrong. it is a simple fact. if you look at a woman wrong that is a sin. so it doesn't matter if you preach the word of god even though you are a sinner if you ask for forgivness for those sins then they shall be forgiven. there is not gray area in this matter, its yes or no.Originally Posted by chuck
as pharm-teg said you people need to atleast get on the same page before trying to post, it took me asking 3x to get a straight answer out of any of you.
yeah but you have to believe and realize the sin is wrong...not turn around and plug your boyfriends ass and then pray for forgiveness then do it again...lol. and there is a difference between looking at a girl and sitting there undressing her with your eyes...Originally Posted by admin
and the gray area is if you believe you have sinned and your heart is in the right place when you ask for forgivness
and i'm pretty sure i explained the same page thing...but sorry i can't tell people what to post
Originally Posted by admin
true, everyone sins daily, but that's why at the end of the day, before u go to bed, kneel down if u can and pray and ask for forgiveness. do the gay people ask for forgiveness everytime they pray?? no point in that.
the gay people do other things on their knees...lolOriginally Posted by SD STI LOVER
No, you can't just say...Forgive me...and then get into heaven, it's a process of showing the Lord that you trust in him and that you believe he will take care of you. He knows we are not perfect, that's why he gives us an opportunity, to bring him back into the center of our hearts...and try to lead a better, and fuller life by correcting our mishaps. It's very easy to understand...I think that some of you are looking way further into things than nessessary. If it seems wrong, it probably is.
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
LoL..man you Christians are not even on the same page as far as which sins can and cannot be forgiven. Is there a checklist in the bible? One says anything is forgiven and the other one says only some are...LoL. You see why religion is so deceptive. Catholics forgive everything. Hell they let their priests molest alter boys.
But, seriously we are talking about the possibility that Jesus was gay.
blasphemy is the only unforgiveable sin... they are just sayin you can't just live life as a "heathen" then right before u die say "forgive me Lord" and expect to go to heaven...Originally Posted by pharm_teg
and this all still ties together with being gay cause admin asked about a gay that's a christian... it can't happen... that's like saying your a wet flame.... the two don't mix...
Last edited by Killer; 09-09-2005 at 02:30 PM.
That is the dumbest thing i've heard yet out of you...Originally Posted by Killer
thats like saying:
YOU CAN THINK ABOUT WOAHING A WOMAN B/C THAT IS LUST AND LUST IS A SIN SO YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!
YOU LIED SO YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN!
they are all sins, and they all go together, if you weren't christian than they wouldn't be sins... and lets talk about sins... is being GAY a deadly sin???
the bible says that any sin can be repented of except for talking shit about the holy spirit...i said that and lauren said that...that's the bibles teachings...a lot of people will say that all sins can be forgive because its easier than saying %99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999Originally Posted by pharm_teg
of sins can be forgiven...so taken that into account where have all of them been on different pages??
Originally Posted by chuck
Then everyone should be able to get into Heaven. Since everything is forgivable. Why even have a list of sins? So most of you take comfort in knowing that all your sins are forgivable, therefore, you commit the same ones over, and over, and over again. "Forgiveness" seems to be the Christian " get out jail free card."
ok, what if u don't have the chance to ask for forgiveness before u die? the gays or anybody that has that backup plan will be in a bad spot.
that's why you are supposed to pray and talk to god...dailyOriginally Posted by SD STI LOVER
exactly!!!Originally Posted by chuck
if you know the knowledge of the Lord and you reject him...then you are rejecting your father, your creater. If you go your whole life and never know the Lord, then it's like a child...you are un-knowledgable of the truth, and I believe you go to heaven. But think about it...it's far fetched that you will go your whole life and never know or hear anything about God.
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
how many of you are fornicating with out being married????
Originally Posted by tracy
I am!!! I'm sure God can see that...LoL.
And yes...we all sin everyday...but God knows that...WE AREN'T perfect...he wants us to try our best to lead a life exhaulting his name, and knowing the truth.
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
paul i don't think you are getting the idea of repentance...homosexuality is a sinfull LIFESTYLE, you can't repent of a lifestyle if its who you are day in and day out...if you were once gay and then straightened up then it might be a different story...but once again, not for any of us to know or decide
gays and repent like any other... all sins are lifestyles... you can lie/lust each and every day, just as your comment about two girls previous in this thread (i think i was you who said jokingly about two females was ok)... but at your death if you ask for forgivness for your sins then you shall be forgiven.Originally Posted by chuck
its like ok, you look at a woman the wrong way it is a sin, suddenly a gun shot rang and your dead. you didn't ask for forgiviness for that sin.... are you going to heaven?
i don't consider myself a christian, i am ready to spend eternal damnation in hell if i die today...so to answer your question: NOOriginally Posted by admin
i don't pray, i don't go to church, i in no means consider myself a christian for any reason other than a couple of you guys awful classification; i live the sex, drugs and rock & roll lifestyle and i'm going to hell if i die today, tomorrow, next year or probably even 10 years from now. i'll look at a woman the wrong way all i want and i'll make her scream my name all night too...i don't get a fuck...i'm just trying to give the bibles explanation/side of things since i am familiar with it...hence why i've been trying to say "the bible teaches" and "...but my personal belief is..."
repenting: look at a woman and be like she got some nice hooters and START thinking about what u want to do to her. b4 finishing u catch urself and realize that wrong. ask God to 4give u for thinking like that about her and seriously mean it AND TRY NOT TO DO IT AGIAN.
Great statement.Originally Posted by BTEC
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
That's why God knows that we are not PERFECT...He is a forgiving God and if he realizes that you tried your best to live up to his expectations, that you are worthy of his love as a Father...you all are looking way to far into this!
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon