you can ask for forgivness of your sins but the bible also says that there are sins that can't be forgiven...such as talking shit about "the holy spirit: :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
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you can ask for forgivness of your sins but the bible also says that there are sins that can't be forgiven...such as talking shit about "the holy spirit: :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
tracy...
no... Thou shalt not murder... another sin..... one of the ten commandments... that means they are killing themselves and assuring themselves a spot in hell.... (their blood is on there own heads)
then why in the 10 commandment does it say thou shalt not kill?Quote:
i guess it all depends on your definition of "ok"...before it (killing) was illegal it was actually a quite common practice
Then why does it say this?Quote:
no woman. that is up for God to decide what happens to them and when. not for us to take it into our hands.
"They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
Only if he/she goes by the name of speedminded. Later, QD.Quote:
Originally Posted by tracy
u can ask forgiveness and be forgiven if u mean it. u cant do dirt all ur life and right b4 u die just say the wrds to get into heaven. Gods knows when u are sincerely sorry for something u did. just asking God for forgiveness is not the only thing, u also have to repent to the person in which u offeneded or whatever if possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
Tracy, that can be summed up in one sentence:Quote:
Originally Posted by tracy
Religion is nothing but judgemental people who live by a double standard.
Later, QD.
it doesnt say who is to put them to death though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tracy
ok but we are talking about being gay... is that not a sin that can be forgiven? com'on boys i'm waiting answer the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
axemen and such were banished from the church, they were going to hell anyway...who cared if they commited sins??Quote:
Originally Posted by tracy
i'm not saying it was condoned by the church to kill the gays, the church always wanted to reach out and "save" the gays...
the catholic church just wanted to reach out and touch little boys...lol, sorry, had to throw that in for some reason???
I believe that if you murder someone, then if you repent and confess...you shall be forgiven...
the only unforgivable sin I can recall is "blaspheme of the holy ghost (holy spirit)"...
OK we posted at the same timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Killer
i dunno, i'll ask god when i meet it...until then there isn't anyway anyone can know for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by admin
tracy, admin, BTEC, SD STI LOVER, LaurenK, chuck, Killer, pharm_teg
dude this forum rules!
ahh but now your looking into much of what i said, SO I WAS CORRECT, you can be forgiven... funny that out of someone who thinks i need to read more :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by BTEC
maybe you need to ask for forgiviness for being judgemental of others.
if u realy follow what the bible says it says judge and ye shall be jugded. So if ne one is judging ppl then they arent following what the bibles say and i wouldnt sweat what they are saying. as for the the gay thing, God said its wrong so he judged that already.Quote:
Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
Fuck ya'll. Later, QD.
its not just asking for forgivness that makes you christian...the bible talks of having a relationship with god "pick up your cross and follow me" type stuff...you know, the whole "christ like" thing...waiting til the last minute then trying to pull out a "get out of hell free" card isn't very christ like...probably be best to go ahead and do it once you're too old to have any real funQuote:
Originally Posted by admin
You can be forgiven for any sin, as long as you realize it's wrong, and try to correct it by repenting...
ur not making ne sense. i said u can be forgiven. u make it like u can do dirty and just say forgive me and not mean it and get into heaven which u cant.Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
excatly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LaurenK
LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
you can be forgiven of a sin, but being forgiven isn't what gets you to heaven
and what about jesus being gay?? so much for that topic???
Acts 2:38 - Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
notice it doesn't say be baptized when you are born then repent when you are about to die...and having water sprinkled on your head isn't baptizim anyhow, hate to break it to anyone who might take offence to that
someone should really make a checklist...it'd be a lot easier...haha
well stated earlier gays can be christian, so if a gay christian lives his life by the cross, and at his death bed ask for forgivness then he can go to heaven... AS I STATED.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
i don't give a shit about the stipulations, its the point it can happen,... this is a great topic where christians try to distance themselves from their own religion, b/c many don't think gays will go to heaven, but that is incorrect.
but you can't live your life by the cross if you go against the bibles teachings...
and the bible says that homosexuality is wrong and not christ-like
No, you can't just say...Forgive me...and then get into heaven, it's a process of showing the Lord that you trust in him and that you believe he will take care of you. He knows we are not perfect, that's why he gives us an opportunity, to bring him back into the center of our hearts...and try to lead a better, and fuller life by correcting our mishaps. It's very easy to understand...I think that some of you are looking way further into things than nessessary. If it seems wrong, it probably is.
LoL..man you Christians are not even on the same page as far as which sins can and cannot be forgiven. Is there a checklist in the bible? One says anything is forgiven and the other one says only some are...LoL. You see why religion is so deceptive. Catholics forgive everything. Hell they let their priests molest alter boys.
But, seriously we are talking about the possibility that Jesus was gay.
ok, what if u don't have the chance to ask for forgiveness before u die? the gays or anybody that has that backup plan will be in a bad spot.
exactly.....Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
that's why you are supposed to pray and talk to god...dailyQuote:
Originally Posted by SD STI LOVER
exactly!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
blasphemy is the only unforgiveable sin... they are just sayin you can't just live life as a "heathen" then right before u die say "forgive me Lord" and expect to go to heaven...Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
and this all still ties together with being gay cause admin asked about a gay that's a christian... it can't happen... that's like saying your a wet flame.... the two don't mix...
the bible says that any sin can be repented of except for talking shit about the holy spirit...i said that and lauren said that...that's the bibles teachings...a lot of people will say that all sins can be forgive because its easier than saying %99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
of sins can be forgiven...so taken that into account where have all of them been on different pages??
people live in sin everyday, if you don't think so then your wrong. it is a simple fact. if you look at a woman wrong that is a sin. so it doesn't matter if you preach the word of god even though you are a sinner if you ask for forgivness for those sins then they shall be forgiven. there is not gray area in this matter, its yes or no.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
as pharm-teg said you people need to atleast get on the same page before trying to post, it took me asking 3x to get a straight answer out of any of you.
if you know the knowledge of the Lord and you reject him...then you are rejecting your father, your creater. If you go your whole life and never know the Lord, then it's like a child...you are un-knowledgable of the truth, and I believe you go to heaven. But think about it...it's far fetched that you will go your whole life and never know or hear anything about God.
how many of you are fornicating with out being married????
And yes...we all sin everyday...but God knows that...WE AREN'T perfect...he wants us to try our best to lead a life exhaulting his name, and knowing the truth.
there are ppl that go to church that are gay and accepted. learning that it is wrong and changing ur lifestyle is what u are supposed to be doing. u cant go to heaven after living a homosexual lifestyle. plain and simpleQuote:
Originally Posted by admin
yeah but you have to believe and realize the sin is wrong...not turn around and plug your boyfriends ass and then pray for forgiveness then do it again...lol. and there is a difference between looking at a girl and sitting there undressing her with your eyes...Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
and the gray area is if you believe you have sinned and your heart is in the right place when you ask for forgivness
and i'm pretty sure i explained the same page thing...but sorry i can't tell people what to post
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Originally Posted by admin
true, everyone sins daily, but that's why at the end of the day, before u go to bed, kneel down if u can and pray and ask for forgiveness. do the gay people ask for forgiveness everytime they pray?? no point in that.