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    Quote Originally Posted by NEONRACER
    I understand what your saying but that was not my intention. Faith in God is used as a crutch for people to understand what is happening in there life. Having faith that I will succeed in my life will depend on how well I plan and execute myself throughout life. People always use the word faith to only mean faith in god. Have faith, god will see you throught this. I hear this and want ask the question, do you have faith in yourself? Do you have faith that you can overcome this hardship, can you improve you life? What is the point of living if you live your life as if God is dictating every aspect? Where is the personal responsibility? People of religious faith don't always take personal responsibility and say it's god's will that this happened. I see that as a crutch to take away the pain of them screwing up and to take the responsibility off themselves. Back tot he topic of faith.

    I don't think it matters what you have faith in as long as you have faith. I never said it was wrong to have faith in God, I think without that faith alot of people would no know how to live in this world. The most important thing is to believe in somehting good, something positive whatever it may be. This world is full of shit, some of which is brought on by religion. Once again the idea and intent of religion is not bad, but what it has been turned into is what I don't like. Without faith in something you will have nothing, that is what I was trying to get at.
    I see what you're saying. I respect that. And if I'm being honest, I have to agree with a vast majority of what you're saying.

    The only point that I think I disagree most with in that statement is the highlighted one. I think that most true Christians would have an answer to that question. Personally, I think that's exactly what God wants everyone to do and what we should strive for. Again, that is simply my opinion based on what I believe. I think others may disagree, and that's OK. I also think that even if you are not a religious person per se, I still think most people truly believe that there is a higher power at work. What that is, it's name, it's function, and it's purpose is what sets everyone apart from one another.

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    I understand that the bible teaches you to live your life for God but what I can't understand is how people give him credit for everything. If God gave man a free will then why is that everytime YOU do somehting in YOUR life that is great it is god's will, and when something in YOUR life goes wrong it's God's will? That is the exact opposite of what he was trying to teach. I see that as irresponsible. People have to have to push blame off on someone else instead of taking personal responsibility for their own actions. I am poor because god wants me to be, I am fat because god wants to be I get tired of hearing things like this, get off your fat lazy ass an get a job, and while your at it quit eating dings dongs and twinkies, ever think of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEONRACER
    I understand that the bible teaches you to live your life for God but what I can't understand is how people give him credit for everything. If God gave man a free will then why is that everytime YOU do somehting in YOUR life that is great it is god's will, and when something in YOUR life goes wrong it's God's will? That is the exact opposite of what he was trying to teach. I see that as irresponsible. People have to have to push blame off on someone else instead of taking personal responsibility for their own actions. I am poor because god wants me to be, I am fat because god wants to be I get tired of hearing things like this, get off your fat lazy ass an get a job, and while your at it quit eating dings dongs and twinkies, ever think of that.

    Just think of it as making lemonade with the lemons you're dealt. Some people want to be thankful to God for what they have or don't have, while others don't at all.

    Part of the reason people give him credit for "everything" is because they may believe everything does originate from God. Again, this is assuming the person professing that is a true Christian.

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