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    Quote Originally Posted by 1zach4
    ahhh I do love all of this great conversation, but i'll just say it for the record:

    In the end, to be blunt, Anyone who believes Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, died on the cross for their sins, and rose 3 days later to Heaven....will go to Heaven....everyone else will be eternally seperated from God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    QD, what's sad is that you've probably never even done any research on Jesus Christ and Christianity.

    And to the Jewish Athiest, so what you know more religious historical context about the Old Testament than I do...Jesus Christ fulfilled all of the prophecies from the Old Testament in the New Testament, and forgave me of all my past and future sins when I accepted Him as my Savior. I truthfully care about where you spend eternity, so I suggest you do some more research about Jesus Christ and put your Old Testament knowledge together with the New Testament and see what will really happen to you if you remain an athiest.

    I'm not going to get my hopes up though because it is a commonly known fact that only 6% of adults get saved after their 18th Birthday.
    Don't kid yourself. I have done far more objective, structured, and broad-based research into the Judeo-christian cosomology than you ever have, that much is obvious.

    What you are trying to do now is deflect the issue. You spouted off some BS about Heaven being almost impossible to get in 'The Old Testament' because Jesus hadn't flown in to save our little red wagons yet, and I called you on it. Not only was it not difficult to get into at all, but Hell didn't even EXIST in the Old Testament. Gehenna is a different theological construct of afterlife altogether, and if you ask me, a far more preferable and superior notion of the way a kind, loving, caring God would treat those in the afterlife. Gehenna is, however, far less useful for subjugating and scaring people into converting. Historically, the Christian concept of Hell was used to oppress, forcibly convert, and exert power over ignorant masses.

    What I think you should do now is tell me why you think you were so catastrophically wrong about the nature of the afterlife before Jesus came along and saved our shit from eternal damnation.
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