Suicide...

[FrogPrincess]

I had a lot to say before I started reading this thread. By the time I got to the end, however, most of what I had to say has already been said. But here are just a few things I would like to add to all this.

... but I do feel it does keep you out of heaven....

The only thing that can keep you out of heaven is not accepting the Lord as your saviour and believing that he is your only hope for heaven.

"Thou shalt not kill" which means not even yourself...

First off it's murder not kill. And second the bible also says that hatred is the same as murder (1 John 3:15 KJV) and we've all hated/ strongly disliked someone or something in our lives so why worry about breaking that by killing yourself? We've all pretty much broken it already...

Are you sure that is correct? Aren't you supposed to ask for forgiveness for your sins after you commit them? And not before? That's like me going to confession and asking for forgiveness so I can commit a 187/211. Later, QD.

Once your saved your always saved. Being saved doesn't have anything to do with confessing your sins, it's about confessing the Lord Jesus (Romans 10: 9-10 KJV) It's about knowing that your a sinner and Christ is your only way to heaven. Believing and trusting in Him. Just because you commit another sin doesn't mean that you become unsaved, it just means that your human and your not perfect and can't live a perfect life. That's when confessing our sins and asking for forgiveness comes in (1 John 1:9 KJV). Once you are saved there is nothing you can do to lose your salvation.(John 10:27 -30 KJV) Not even killing yourself or others. The Lord will always forgive you if you ask Him too. This doesn't mean it's ok to go off and commit tons of sins and then go and ask to be forgiven. It just means that if we mess up that He will forgive us if we ask Him.

The Bible clearly says in Romans 3:23 that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God

It also says that no man shall be saved by works alone

SO what that is saying is that yeah you may have great morals, and lead a good life, but if you do not believe and accept that Jesus Christ is your personal Lord and Savior and that He died on the cross and rose 3 days later to pay for your sin than you simply will not make it to heaven, you will go to hell.

People call it narrow-minded thinking that there is only one way to heaven, but narrow is the path that leads to the Lord and wide is the path that leads to destruction.

People that think all roads lead to heaven if you live a good life need to put that statement into perspective...It is like saying that all roads lead to the same place...if you believe that then next time you get stuck in traffic on 75-north trying to get home...just turn around and go home on 75-south, if your theory is correct than technically it should get you home just as fast.

One day ever knee will bow down and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, i'll just pray that anyone that reads this will be on the right side of their salvation when that time comes.

one more thing about being "saved"
if you are saved by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and savior (which is the only way to get to heaven) then no, you do not have to pray for forgiveness after you sin to avoid hell, if you are truly saved then nothing you can do can take you out of your Father's hand. So it is sad to say that if a man lives a good life with good morals and is not a christian, and a christian lives a worse life, the man will go to hell and the christian will not. Many people don't put their faith in the Lord these days because there are so many christians that have the mindset that they are saved and don't have to worry anymore. It is true that they don't have to worry about hell, but the reason you are saved by the blood of the perfect sacrifice, Jesus Christ, is so that you can go to all the nations and tell them about Jesus.

If any of you would like to come hang out with me on a sunday or something, or just come check out First Baptist Church of Woodstock with me sometime just shoot me a pm.

Amen to that.

The answer...

Some people believe that all who commit suicide go immediately to Hell. However, the Bible never says if this is the case. The Bible is silent on this issue. God probably did not address it in black in white for a good reason. If we knew that we would still go to Heaven if we killed ourselves, there would probably be a lot more suicides taking place than there already are. However, if we knew that all who killed themselves were automatically banished to Hell, no matter what their situation, it may be too much for the grief-stricken family and friends to bear. Murder and suicide are not unpardonable sins. The only unforgivable sins are rejecting Christ (Mark 16:16) and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

(Mark 3:28-29 KJV) Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

All other sins can be forgiven. However, anyone contemplating suicide may be in danger of going to Hell, as their relationship with the Lord is not intact at that point. Those who would consider suicide may have a severed relationship with Christ and therefore they would enter the real Hell--which is worse than the hellish feelings they are experiencing at the moment.

Once again Amen!