Why don't you believe in God?

[Jaimecbr900]

So I read all of this and all you did was refer me back to what I was asking. It's like a big circle.

John 3:12 says "If I have told you earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of heavenly things?"

Romans 10:14 says "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?"

In other words, I felt that was addressing your question. You were wondering how someone is to "believe". I chose those two passages because to me they are saying "doubters will always doubt, until someone teaches them any different". I'm not smart enough to teach anything about the Bible, but to me those passages are saying that in order to truly understand God, you have to study it. Follow?

Moses parted the red sea...can I go part the red sea if I believe in God? Can you part any sea cuz you have faith???

You have to read the full story. Moses didn't part the Red Sea just because he was faithful. He parted the Red Sea as a direct order from God in order to escape persecution. I suppose if you God chose you to lead slaves out of Egypt, he'd give you whatever powers you'd need to do that too.

Has anyone else had a miracle virgin conception since Mary???

There's only ONE Jesus, so why would there be a need for another one?

I know the bible says why Jesus rose from the dead, but has anyone else been able to rise from the dead in modern times?

Same answer as above. There is only ONE Jesus. If there were many, there would be no way to tell the real from the fake.

You can't just refer me back to the bible when I'm asking questions about the bible and what it says. I already know what it says and it still doesn't make sense.

I quoted things from the bible because to me they explain some of the questions you have. I was hoping they'd do the same for you. Unfortunately, I'm no Bible scholar so I don't have the tools to explain any further than that. Maybe you should ask a priest or preacher and see if they give you an answer that makes sense to you.

That's like me asking you to help me with a calculus problem and you referrring me back to the same equation. Dan does that all the time with calc. He's like...it's right there. Can't you see it??!!! With no explanation.

Dan's smarter than you and I, so I can't help you there.

[Tracy]

John 3:12 says "If I have told you earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of heavenly things?"

Romans 10:14 says "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?"

In other words, I felt that was addressing your question. You were wondering how someone is to "believe". I chose those two passages because to me they are saying "doubters will always doubt, until someone teaches them any different". I'm not smart enough to teach anything about the Bible, but to me those passages are saying that in order to truly understand God, you have to study it. Follow?






You have to read the full story. Moses didn't part the Red Sea just because he was faithful. He parted the Red Sea as a direct order from God in order to escape persecution. I suppose if you God chose you to lead slaves out of Egypt, he'd give you whatever powers you'd need to do that too.




There's only ONE Jesus, so why would there be a need for another one?



Same answer as above. There is only ONE Jesus. If there were many, there would be no way to tell the real from the fake.



I quoted things from the bible because to me they explain some of the questions you have. I was hoping they'd do the same for you. Unfortunately, I'm no Bible scholar so I don't have the tools to explain any further than that. Maybe you should ask a priest or preacher and see if they give you an answer that makes sense to you.



Dan's smarter than you and I, so I can't help you there.

I hear ya on some of this stuff. I have talked to preachers and priests and they basically do the same thing. Explain things by pointing you right back to the Bible.

I know there is only 1 Jesus. Why can't we have another if he was such a good thing??? It's been long enough and we have a lot of problems that maybe another Jesus could help us with by dying.

I did read the story about Moses. So is it like rhetorical or for real....because who has powers like parting the sea? Only Moses or people from his generation aparently.

Johns and Romans can tell us all they want about earthly things...but we are not using their language anymore. Who's to say that whoever had to rewrite the bible didn't interperate things the way he thought it should be said? Not all words or sentences, for that matter, translate directly so that means someone has to interpret it. Why can't Jaime testify to any of these types of things happening? Because you've never seen it, right? You just read the Bible and hope that it's true. You've never experienced it for yourself and I don't mean the feeling of having God in your life. I mean a for real, seen it with your own eyes experience. It's like reading the internet, just because you read it and someone says it's true doesn't mean it is. Now if you see a video potsed then all of a sudden you can fathom it.

[Xrated O.G.]

I hear ya on some of this stuff. I have talked to preachers and priests and they basically do the same thing. Explain things by pointing you right back to the Bible.

I know there is only 1 Jesus. Why can't we have another if he was such a good thing??? It's been long enough and we have a lot of problems that maybe another Jesus could help us with by dying.

I did read the story about Moses. So is it like rhetorical or for real....because who has powers like parting the sea? Only Moses or people from his generation aparently.

Johns and Romans can tell us all they want about earthly things...but we are not using their language anymore. Who's to say that whoever had to rewrite the bible didn't interperate things the way he thought it should be said? Not all words or sentences, for that matter, translate directly so that means someone has to interpret it. Why can't Jaime testify to any of these types of things happening? Because you've never seen it, right? You just read the Bible and hope that it's true. You've never experienced it for yourself and I don't mean the feeling of having God in your life. I mean a for real, seen it with your own eyes experience. It's like reading the internet, just because you read it and someone says it's true doesn't mean it is. Now if you see a video potsed then all of a sudden you can fathom it.

You go girl...Thats a nice interperatation of things..

[Tracy]

You go girl...Thats a nice interperatation of things..

Word! I'm definately going to hell if there is one....

Jaime. I love you and you are one of the smartest people I know. I hope you know that.

[Killer]

Word! I'm definately going to hell if there is one....

Jaime. I love you and you are one of the smartest people I know. I hope you know that.

and you're happy about that...???
i went through a stage in my life where i still believed in God, but i didn't worship Him... i was sinning left and right.... and i knew i was going to hell if i did.... THAT WAS THE WORST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!!!! i've never been more unhappy....
and Jesus dieing didn't just solve every body's problems. It just allows sinners like you and I to ask for forgiveness and go to heaven NOT HELL!

[Xrated O.G.]

Well Im not going to sit here and try to speak for Tracy but I do have some questions for ya.


1. If its a persons choice to accept the fact that they feel they are going to go to hell, then whats wrong with that. Not that Im saying I do or dont beleive in heaven or hell.

2. If said person is content and able to see there past "sins", and it doesnt bother them then why do others feel they need to belittle and preach to them?

3. With as many choices as there are in choosing out of so many different types of religions, why is it not ok to choose to be a sinner?



I dont want this to seem as if Im religion bashing, because I'm not. These are just a few of the questions I have been asking for my 31 yrs on this earth. I have had this type of discussion with people from all walks of life and not one of them can give me a straight answer. Everyone believes in different things, I just feel that religion has become more of a business than a "faith".

and you're happy about that...???
i went through a stage in my life where i still believed in God, but i didn't worship Him... i was sinning left and right.... and i knew i was going to hell if i did.... THAT WAS THE WORST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!!!! i've never been more unhappy....
and Jesus dieing didn't just solve every body's problems. It just allows sinners like you and I to ask for forgiveness and go to heaven NOT HELL!

[Tracy]

Well Im not going to sit here and try to speak for Tracy but I do have some questions for ya.


1. If its a persons choice to accept the fact that they feel they are going to go to hell, then whats wrong with that. Not that Im saying I do or dont beleive in heaven or hell.

2. If said person is content and able to see there past "sins", and it doesnt bother them then why do others feel they need to belittle and preach to them?

3. With as many choices as there are in choosing out of so many different types of religions, why is it not ok to choose to be a sinner?



I dont want this to seem as if Im religion bashing, because I'm not. These are just a few of the questions I have been asking for my 31 yrs on this earth. I have had this type of discussion with people from all walks of life and not one of them can give me a straight answer. Everyone believes in different things, I just feel that religion has become more of a business than a "faith".

This is alos a question that I have. Why so many religions and most of them don't coincide? and what's this about the old and new testament? It's a interpertation thing, right?

[Killer]

Well Im not going to sit here and try to speak for Tracy but I do have some questions for ya.


1. If its a persons choice to accept the fact that they feel they are going to go to hell, then whats wrong with that. Not that Im saying I do or dont beleive in heaven or hell.

2. If said person is content and able to see there past "sins", and it doesnt bother them then why do others feel they need to belittle and preach to them?

3. With as many choices as there are in choosing out of so many different types of religions, why is it not ok to choose to be a sinner?



I dont want this to seem as if Im religion bashing, because I'm not. These are just a few of the questions I have been asking for my 31 yrs on this earth. I have had this type of discussion with people from all walks of life and not one of them can give me a straight answer. Everyone believes in different things, I just feel that religion has become more of a business than a "faith".

1. well i think most people don't really realize what hell is...
so as a christian it absolutely kills me to think about someone going to hell. (whether i know them or not)

2. in no way am i trying to belittle anyone. but yes i'm gonna "preach" as a christian it is my job to spread the word. and it's not like i'm telling anyone that they are awful for what they've done in the past. (i've screwed up plenty) in no way do i judge, but if someone says to me "i'm going to hell" to me it's almost a cry for help so i do my best to try and help.

3. you're right that's your choice.... and the only thing "wrong" with that path is that it's not Gods path for your life. it's a path to an eternal hell.... i feel that people water down what hell is really gonna be like and they don't realize that it last for ALL OF TIME. that's pain that you don't think u can take for one more second... yet it just keeps coming as you just keep screaming and falling forever, and your all alone. yet you hear other people screaming. it's completely black. i could go on.... but i won't.

[Tracy]

and you're happy about that...???
i went through a stage in my life where i still believed in God, but i didn't worship Him... i was sinning left and right.... and i knew i was going to hell if i did.... THAT WAS THE WORST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!!!! i've never been more unhappy....
and Jesus dieing didn't just solve every body's problems. It just allows sinners like you and I to ask for forgiveness and go to heaven NOT HELL!

I don't really care because I don't believe in it.

So if I ask for forgiveness right now, I'm going to heaven???

[ISAtlanta300]

I don't really care because I don't believe in it.

So if I ask for forgiveness right now, I'm going to heaven???

No it does not work that way. Like it was said in a previous post, it is not like opening your mouth and saying "Please forgive me" and poof, you are back in Kansas with Toto

[Killer]

I don't really care because I don't believe in it.

So if I ask for forgiveness right now, I'm going to heaven???

it's basically as simple as that yes..... if you ask jesus into your heart and pray for forgiveness you're in... but to me it takes you doing your part as a christian to keep that "key" to heaven. (your part is to worship God)

[ISAtlanta300]

I hear ya on some of this stuff. I have talked to preachers and priests and they basically do the same thing. Explain things by pointing you right back to the Bible.

That is because most of your answers ARE in the bible

Everything is written in there. The beginning AND the end.

I know there is only 1 Jesus. Why can't we have another if he was such a good thing??? It's been long enough and we have a lot of problems that maybe another Jesus could help us with by dying.

It is not time yet. Again... (LOL).... yes I am pointing at the bible. His second coming is foretold. There will not be another Jesus.

And problems? You have not seen anything yet.... the best (or worse?) is yet to come......

I did read the story about Moses. So is it like rhetorical or for real....because who has powers like parting the sea? Only Moses or people from his generation aparently.

Who has powers like parting the sea? God. Not Moses or people from his generation. It was through him that God allowed such power. God basically told him what to do and GAVE him the power to do it AT THE MOMENT. Does not mean that he could have partedit again at will. He was not a "power ranger".

Because you've never seen it, right? You just read the Bible and hope that it's true. You've never experienced it for yourself and I don't mean the feeling of having God in your life. I mean a for real, seen it with your own eyes experience. It's like reading the internet, just because you read it and someone says it's true doesn't mean it is. Now if you see a video potsed then all of a sudden you can fathom it.

Even THEN some people will doubt it. Look at this site !! "He wasn't racing in the VID ! He let off the accelerator! It was his friend ! It was Staged !!"

Like Jaime says.. no one can make you believe. You either do or you don't. Nothing wrong with that. People have free will to make their own choices. I have not seen Julius Ceasar, met Christophel Columbus or drank tea with Mao-Tse-Tung. Yet I "believe" they existed. Even though I did not experience it for myself. It's like reading a history book.

[Tracy]

Like Jaime says.. no one can make you believe. You either do or you don't. Nothing wrong with that. People have free will to make their own choices. I have not seen Julius Ceasar, met Christophel Columbus or drank tea with Mao-Tse-Tung. Yet I "believe" they existed. Even though I did not experience it for myself. It's like reading a history book.

Julius Ceasar and Chris Columbus don't have such an impact on people lives. No one is "going to hell" or "heaven" because they do/don't believe in Julius or Chris

I believe Jesus existed. I just believe that he is the son of god the same way you are the "son of god" or the same way I am "a child of god".

[Pedal]

Julius Ceasar and Chris Columbus don't have such an impact on people lives. No one is "going to hell" or "heaven" because they do/don't believe in Julius or Chris

I believe Jesus existed. I just believe that he is the son of god the same way you are the "son of god" or the same way I am "a child of god".

also how may Jesus's lived during those times

or even how many are alive today