Not All Pits Are Viscious!

**neontuner95** · 08-30-2005, 11:49 AM

Well this is in response to law maker in Florida and soon to be Louisiana, instead of banning the whole breed of pitbulls from the state. Allow owners to get waivers from the vets who can psychology determine whether the particular dog is a threat cause not all pits are raise up to be fighter. Although they come from a possible fighting blood line. Sounds like a good idea to me! If the individuals dog can be proven to be not use for fighting, grant a waiver with guidelines.

**SD STI LOVER** · 08-30-2005, 11:52 AM

hey i have a pit named piggy and she is the sweetest dog you'll ever meet. she is like a big puppy. she loves my nieces. but don't get me wrong. i have her fenced in because she is very protective of them and especially my mom. they are good dogs.

**neontuner95** · 08-30-2005, 03:04 PM

Yeah I have a female pit also, she's a red nose.

**SD STI LOVER** · 08-30-2005, 03:08 PM

yea mine is a red nose also. she is white with brindle spots.

**quickdodge®** · 08-30-2005, 03:55 PM

It's not that they are all viscious. It's that they(along with any animal) can turn viscious at the drop of a dime. I don't care how sweet your dog is, if you've never beaten or even looked at your dog mean, all it takes is a split second and real animal nature can kick in. A lot of people won't realize that, though. They think that just because their dog has never bitten anyone, that they never will. Later, QD.

**Mr.Big** · 08-30-2005, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by quickdodge®

It's not that they are all viscious. It's that they(along with any animal) can turn viscious at the drop of a dime. I don't care how sweet your dog is, if you've never beaten or even looked at your dog mean, all it takes is a split second and real animal nature can kick in. A lot of people won't realize that, though. They think that just because their dog has never bitten anyone, that they never will. Later, QD.

Very true But if u think about it THey breed pitts for fighting. Its in there blood (bull blood line) . I love pitts but personly i never heard of a pitt not snapping at their (master)

**SD STI LOVER** · 08-30-2005, 04:07 PM

it's not that, and especially with pitbulls. i have no doubt about that. it's just that everybody thinks that pits are killers and its just because if u look at the news everytime there is one on the new that killed or bite someone, it's because the used to be fighting dogs. everytime i see cruelty to animals i see pits and how they feed them gun powder and starve them to death. but everybody knows what they do, so I guess so. i was just letting buddy know about my dog.

**Killer** · 08-30-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by SD STI LOVER

it's not that, and especially with pitbulls. i have no doubt about that. it's just that everybody thinks that pits are killers and its just because if u look at the news everytime there is one on the new that killed or bite someone, it's because the used to be fighting dogs. everytime i see cruelty to animals i see pits and how they feed them gun powder and starve them to death. but everybody knows what they do, so I guess so. i was just letting buddy know about my dog.

Exactly!!!! i hate people that breed fighting dogs... anyone who does should be thrown into the pit while the dogs are fighting!!! It give's these beautiful dogs a bad name!!!!

**quickdodge®** · 08-30-2005, 06:35 PM

^^^ That's another reason why they aren't 100% reliable as safe. They may never trun on someone in their life. You just never know. I agree, though, with you about the law. It is fucced up. Later, QD.

**The Ren** · 08-30-2005, 07:32 PM

My pit is a brindle... she isnt full pit but she would still be covered by the law, because she looks like a pitbull. I've done alot of studying up on them.. specially working at a vet and I will say this... I would rather work with a pit or a dobi, then a rottie or a chiuahuah, or a shih tzu. I HATE rotties.. If people think pits are bad.. Rotties are worse...alot worse. But no one says anything about them... just pits.. It really depends on the owner.. and how you bring them up...

**Mr.Big** · 08-30-2005, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Mycivicjust8u]My pit is a brindle... she isnt full pit but she would still be covered by the law, because she looks like a pitbull. I've done alot of studying up on them.. specially working at a vet and I will say this... I would rather work with a pit or a dobi, then a rottie or a chiuahuah, or a shih tzu. I HATE rotties.. If people think pits are bad.. Rotties are worse...alot worse. But no one says anything about them... just pits.. It really depends on the owner.. and how you bring them up...

WTF now thats crazy talk. Pitts are more aggreesive then rotties. Rotties are used for police and guard dogs. So why u say rotties are worse then pitts. Rotties are alot smarter then pitts. Plus pitts hurt and kill way more people then rotties

**topsecret2JZ** · 08-30-2005, 07:39 PM

i have 12.... just had 8 puppies

**Killer** · 08-31-2005, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by topsecret2JZ

i have 12.... just had 8 puppies

u willing to sell any...??? or possibly just get rid of one...

pm me....

**The Ren** · 08-30-2005, 07:56 PM

Bullshit... Ive been dealing with animals on a daily basis for over 5 years now.. and I have had more of the docs and tech i work with say they have actually refused clients and fired clients who have rotties then pits... My first actual bite was from a rottie who backed me in a corner... never once have I had a pit do it to me.. and Ive dealt with some badd pits.. including abused ones and ones we have to take care of and then they go to animal control and get put to sleep.. did you know at any animal control if they have a pit, they WILL NOT put it up for adoption.. but a rottie they will? Thats some shit if you ask me

**Mr.Big** · 08-30-2005, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mycivicjust8u

Bullshit... Ive been dealing with animals on a daily basis for over 5 years now.. and I have had more of the docs and tech i work with say they have actually refused clients and fired clients who have rotties then pits... My first actual bite was from a rottie who backed me in a corner... never once have I had a pit do it to me.. and Ive dealt with some badd pits.. including abused ones and ones we have to take care of and then they go to animal control and get put to sleep.. did you know at any animal control if they have a pit, they WILL NOT put it up for adoption.. but a rottie they will? Thats some shit if you ask me

Look i had rotties all my life i had 6 and i never got attack. But when u say u got back in to a corner. Maybe the rottie did not know u and felt afraid and just attack u. . So tell me this why the police used rotties and not pitts Tell me that and u win this whole thing

**Crowml** · 08-31-2005, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mycivicjust8u

including abused ones and ones we have to take care of and then they go to animal control and get put to sleep.. did you know at any animal control if they have a pit, they WILL NOT put it up for adoption.. but a rottie they will? Thats some shit if you ask me

Please don't stereotype. A lot of animal controls put hardwork into rescuing pitts. Understand that stereotypes of this sort shoot down the efforts of shelters that initiate programs that don't perpetuate stereotyping of breeds.
In essence what you're doing is justifying one steretype by adding another.

As far as I know, Cobb, Coweta, Spalding, Bartow and a schlew of others do in fact adopts pitts.

Also, the single strongest argument against breed specific legislation is enforceability. With the outrageous number of pitt look a like mixes (boxer mixes, american bulldog mixes, etc...) how are enforcement authorities to decide who goes and who stays? This sort of blanket legislation is known as "profiling" and is a direct infringement of our constitutional rights.
The problem with pitts is they are predominantly inbred and crossbred to achieve desired physical traits without regard of behavior. The poor breed has been so overbred and inbred that it resembles "uncle" Bubba from Alabama that your family doesn't recognize. Finally, they skew statistics because they are America's most popular breed, people fail to recognize them when attributing the fault of 60% of bite wounds.

**The Ren** · 08-31-2005, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Crowml

Please don't stereotype.

Not stereotyping hun.. I work for vets... Rockdale.. gwinnett...dekalb... none of them will adopt out pits... period and you if say they will you dont know what your talking about.. I have dug out a collar from a abused pit, put her leg back together and for what? She sat in our vet for 7 days... her owners wouldnt pay the bills.. so she was put to sleep... shit like that pisses me off..

**thinkfast®** · 09-23-2005, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mysuprajust8u

did you know at any animal control if they have a pit, they WILL NOT put it up for adoption.. but a rottie they will? Thats some shit if you ask me

Thats funny because my Uncle recently rescued 2 pits from Gwinnett? But I guess you know this as fact, seeing as you have worked for 5 years as a vet tech... My family also rescued a Rottie about 6 months ago, they aren't bad dogs at all and very smart compared to the pits. I can't believe all the bullshit in this topic... almost makes me laugh

almost.

**chris2140** · 08-30-2005, 08:02 PM

my girl just got attacked yeserday by a rott. she didnt even do any thing and it locked on the side of her whole body my friend has 12 pitts and not onee has bitten anyone thats why rotts ae worse

**topsecret2JZ** · 08-30-2005, 08:08 PM

baxter.....

**neontuner95** · 08-31-2005, 10:01 AM

Overall its how you raise your dog, any dog not just the pit itself.

**quickdodge®** · 08-31-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by neontuner95

Overall its how you raise your dog, any dog not just the pit itself.

Originally Posted by dereksi

Its all how you raise the dog.

Both of you are missing the main point. That statement is as false as they come. Pits, dogs, any animal you own has natural animal instincts at all times. Just like humans, animals can snap. Tamed animals are the worst because you don't expect them to. There is no amount of nice training or good dog training you can do to prevent an attack one day. You never know when their natural instinct will kick in.

I'm not saying this to argue and diss on Pits. I'm an animal lover. I just want people to realize that their dog can, at any moment, turn on them or anyone else. It happens on a daily basis. Just want you guys to be careful, that's all. Later, QD.

**SD STI LOVER** · 08-31-2005, 10:14 AM

that's true. all my rotties have always attacked someone but not my pits. cops use them because they are lighter than pits. well at least they look like they are. i really don't know the weight of each dog but if u compare a pit with a rottie, u will see the muscle tone on a pit a lot better. i'll see if i can get some pics of mine, she is only like 5 months and she is big as hell and has a lot of muscle definition.

**The Ren** · 08-31-2005, 11:04 AM

Most cops dont use Rotties.. they use german shepards... and if they use rotties is for the purpose of hurting the criminal...

**Mr.Big** · 08-31-2005, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mycivicjust8u

Most cops dont use Rotties.. they use german shepards... and if they use rotties is for the purpose of hurting the criminal...

Yea they use German shepards too. But if u know ur shit about dogs like u say rottie are mixed with German shepards and Doberman Pincher best of both worlds back in german. Rottie was breed to guard and protect. WTF is u talking
Pitts was not breed for that. THey was breed for FIGHTING. Pitts are not household dogs. Yea they are cute and fun to play with when pups But when they hit that age they start to snap. U never know. Sure u can keep them in ur house But WHY???

**Dark Side** · 11-04-2005, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Big

Yea they use German shepards too. But if u know ur shit about dogs like u say rottie are mixed with German shepards and Doberman Pincher best of both worlds back in german. Rottie was breed to guard and protect. WTF is u talking
Pitts was not breed for that. THey was breed for FIGHTING. Pitts are not household dogs. Yea they are cute and fun to play with when pups But when they hit that age they start to snap. U never know. Sure u can keep them in ur house But WHY???

Dude all i can say is that u are a dum ass ignorant fuck that does not no any thing about pittbulls or any type of dog. Go read some books and know wtf u are talking about before u come on here and act like u know everything about dogs. Cuz u dont ! ( not saying that I do, But i do read ) Oh and German shepards with dobermans do not make a Rottie. Once agian go read up on ur shit. By the why I have a german shepard who is 2 1/2 from Germany.

1: Pittbulls were not breed for fighting. There were breed as game dogs that kings and queens used to hunt wild game in packs. Later people saw what these dogs were capable of and started to cross breed and train the dogs for fighting other dogs. Kind of like cock fights. Why do u think there are so many diff. blood lines of pittbulls, cuz of cross breeding.

2: I have 2 pittbulls that are part of the family and not just household dogs. There are really great with kids and i know this cuz my little cousins play with both of them and sometimes even rough. And they dont "turn on them". Also they would come to our Liquior store and parents would leave there kids behind the counter to play with them as they shopped.

3: U can train any dog to be mean or nice, its all in the way u bring up the dog. U can train a golden to bite the shit out of somebody, its not hard. U are just like every other stereotyping person that is uneducated about the breed of pittbulls. U just know what u see on tv and what bad storys u hear, not even listening to any of the good things about them. But dont worry ur not the only one that thinks this way. There alot more people out there that think the same way u do and alot of them have been posting on this thread.
Not saying that there are not mean pittbulls out there but its cuz of how they are brought up and more then 1/2 of the dogs that bite people are pittbull mixes. That were abused and not trained.
THAT IS ALL ! I am done

FYI These are my to mean Pittbulls that will "turn on u" better run

**dereksi** · 08-31-2005, 01:32 PM

You can train any dog to be mean. I have a full blood pit (kolby). Its all how you raise the dog. My dog is nice as can be but she is VERY protective of me and my bro and my girl. True, pits are easier to train to kill but its all in training. They do really get a bad rap.

**The Ren** · 08-31-2005, 05:21 PM

Dude..you seriously need a grip on reality...I know what Rotties were intended on doing.. but 90% of Cops use German Shepards which are trained and shipped from germany... but your right.. I have no idea what im talking about.. I only deal witht hem all the time..

**Mr.Big** · 08-31-2005, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mycivicjust8u

I only deal witht hem all the time..

Me too BUt dont get me wrong pitts are cool. But there like ur best friend u never know when there going to turn on u

**The Ren** · 08-31-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Big

Me too BUt dont get me wrong pitts are cool. But there like ur best friend u never know when there going to turn on u

I never once said that wasnt true... not once.. but I will say to ANY dog.. if you don know how to handle them or treat them.. they will turn.. I have seen plenty of labs and golden retrievers bite kids before too.. but you dont hear about it as much as pits because pits have become a media frenzy

**The Ren** · 08-31-2005, 05:26 PM

You deal with Rotties? Good for you.. Im guessing your a breeder? I am a vet tech.. have been for 5 years dude...My last job I worked very close with the Conyers PD.. and their K9 units...I dont believe they have 1 Rottie on the force... nope infact all they have are purebred german shepards.. same goes for duluth...and dekalb (they also have 2 purebred black labs)..

**Scrappy** · 08-31-2005, 11:29 PM

im wtih her, its with any dog, i do know my old cocker spaniel bit the ever living crap out of my neck while sleeping, one sudden move and the dog, any dog, can feel threatened.

**The Golden Child** · 09-01-2005, 01:47 AM

my dog .. shes nice and loves other dogs and people ..

**trythefly** · 09-01-2005, 01:16 PM

I'm not even going to touch this ignorant topic.

**Mr.Big** · 09-01-2005, 05:09 PM

ignorant?

**quickdodge®** · 09-01-2005, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Woody Poundersnatch

I'm not even going to touch this ignorant topic.

I wish that I hadn't either. Later, QD.

**neontuner95** · 09-01-2005, 06:48 PM

Whats all the drama it started off as an opion with a suggestion! It didnt start off as ignorant, what you meant to say was nieve people maybe! But lack of knowledge naw cause the point was to strike up views from different folks on the suggestion of a clause to the no pitbull law. How can one be ignorant now; when many people's views have been express back up by some facts. Granted whose to say one person views are 100 percent right no one, there always gonna be disagreements and sure someone will write back and find something wrong with what I just said guess what my opion; not to be taken out of context. Means only what I feel Im entitled peace! Last comment on this post I m done defending what I started as a simple statement if for one it can't be a resolution to resolve the issue that this post was originally intended.

**The Ren** · 09-01-2005, 01:22 PM

^I was waiting for you to come in...

**SD STI LOVER** · 09-01-2005, 01:28 PM

it is true, any animal can turn on u. i just adopted a kitty yesterday and my pit piggy was jealous because I came home and started petting her and I smelled like pussy. lol. she kept jumping on me but not once did she bite me in hatred. she loved the kitty also.

**The Golden Child** · 09-01-2005, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by SD STI LOVER

it is true, any animal can turn on u. i just adopted a kitty yesterday and my pit piggy was jealous because I came home and started petting her and I smelled like pussy. lol. she kept jumping on me but not once did she bite me in hatred. she loved the kitty also.

any animal can but i doubt ur pitt will unless its eating da kitty ..

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