Marijuana decriminalization bill gaining support in Congress

[The12lber]

Why are people using the "black market" as an excuse to legalize something? That is the dumbest reasoning you could even come up with. There is a black market for ANYTHING that is illegal. Pot, cocaine, child pornography, stolen car parts, and anything else you can name.

Are you seriously comparing marijuana to chop shops and people taking pictures of kids naked?

So we should just legalize everything because there's going to be a black market for it anyway right? Yeah, that makes a load of sense.

If they're going to do it anyway, and its not really a big deal, yeah?
Maybe prostitution should be legal so that way prostitutes don't get beaten up by pimps and forced by organized crime into white slavery. But wait, you're one of those smart people who would make something illegal solely on principle I'm sure.

A person can be intelligent and still be f*cking stupid. A guy with a degree from Harvard can be intelligent as all hell but, if he becomes an alcoholic, then he's still f*cking stupid.

Alright big guy, we'll make alcohol illegal for you, too. That worked out well last time.

Get over your narrow minded virtues and accept it. MARIJUANA IS NOT A BIG DEAL. More bad consequences find origin in its illicit nature than the consumption of the drug. A lot more. Conversely, kiddy porn and theft are just inherently bad. Not a good comparison on your part. Oh, and lets not forget the constant civil war our illegal drug money funds in Colombia.

Oh, and the reason its illegal? Because they (Congress) lumped in hemp along with Marijuana when they made it illegal, it was a threat to their friends in the emerging synthetic textile market.

As a side note, Cocaine is illegal because the Congress was afraid of "cocainized *******" raping white women and generally behaving poorly.

[Ran]

EDIT: Actually, I'm bored so I'll elaborate a little more.

Alright big guy, we'll make alcohol illegal for you, too. That worked out well last time.

So you're comparing modern society and law enforcement to what it was 80 years ago? Nice.

Oh, and lets not forget the constant civil war our illegal drug money funds in Colombia.

Who cares about Columbia and why did you bring them up? However, since you're bringing it up. How exactly does it feel to be supporting this civil war?

Oh, and the reason its illegal? Because they (Congress) lumped in hemp along with Marijuana when they made it illegal, it was a threat to their friends in the emerging synthetic textile market.

On this note, I do believe that hemp should be permissible for economical purposes like textile and what-not. As an actual resource, it can be very valuable. I've stated that in older threads as well.

As a side note, Cocaine is illegal because the Congress was afraid of "cocainized *******" raping white women and generally behaving poorly.

So cocaine should now be legalized because it was made illegal over a supposedly racist standing?

Get over your narrow minded virtues and accept it. MARIJUANA IS NOT A BIG DEAL.

In your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the law is on my side. So you can sit here and try to rationalize it all you want. At the end of the day, I still win. Accept that.

[eViLMunkey]

I've got one simple response to The12lber's post.

In your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the law is on my side. So you can sit here and try to rationalize it all you want. At the end of the day, I still win. Accept that.

But coming November you might not win, but till then... I'm still glad it's taken as not a huge deal here in MA

[Ran]

But coming November you might not win, but till then...

These guys can get their hopes up all they want. It's not going to pass and we all know it.

[eViLMunkey]

These guys can get their hopes up all they want. It's not going to pass and we all know it.

Actually I don't think it will pass down south I know it will up here in the N.East and also on the west coast and some states in the Midwest. .

[Total_Blender]

I've got one simple response to The12lber's post.

In your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the law is on my side. So you can sit here and try to rationalize it all you want. At the end of the day, I still win. Accept that.

And at the end of the day people still get high, legal or not. Not a whole lot you can do to stop it there champ.

[Ran]

And at the end of the day people still get high, legal or not. Not a whole lot you can do to stop it there champ.

Actually I had the pleasure of making an anonymous phone call that busted a 4/20 party near my residence. It was quite an enjoyable evening.

[Total_Blender]

Actually I had the pleasure making an anonymous phone call that busted a 4/20 party near my residence. It was quite an enjoyable evening.

Didn't get invited so you narc'd everyone out?

[Ran]

Didn't get invited so you narc'd everyone out?

lol, yeah because I really wanted to smoke pot and eat Cheetos with a bunch of degenerates.

[Total_Blender]

lol, yeah because I really wanted to smoke pot and eat Cheetos with a bunch of degenerates.

And they probably didn't want to check out kiddie porn with you

[DrivenMind]

Actually I had the pleasure of making an anonymous phone call that busted a 4/20 party near my residence. It was quite an enjoyable evening.

Wow... And to think I really thought you were a pretty open minded dude at one time. I'm sure they deserved all the punishment they got after your little anonymous phone call. Being degenerates and all. I wonder how many people at the party received prison sentences, and serious fines for smoking pot with their friends. I'm sure they were doing so much to harm you, and disrupt your peace of mind.

I hope you're capable of imagining what it would be like if someone called the cops on you and your social circle of friends for drinking booze, while prohibition was enacted. Not only that. But lets use our imagination here and imagine that beer was illegal because the person who sought to make it that way, did so for personal reasons, using racial prejudice as a key social motivator.

So here's the real question. What did they do you warrant you calling the cops on them besides getting a little loud on 4/20? If you have a legitimate reason, then I'll be able to understand that, but if you did it just to "bust" them, I'm quite disappointed. You probably screwed a bunch of peoples lives up in a way you're unable to understand or empathize with.

[Ran]

Wow... And to think I really thought you were a pretty open minded dude at one time. I'm sure they deserved all the punishment they got after your little anonymous phone call. Being degenerates and all. I wonder how many people at the party received prison sentences, and serious fines for smoking pot with their friends. I'm sure they were doing so much to harm you, and disrupt your peace of mind.

Aside from a majority of the people there being underaged? Nah, didn't bother me a bit. Having fewer losers around the block exposing this crap to young teens is always good in my book.

I hope you're capable of imagining what it would be like if someone called the cops on you and your social circle of friends for drinking booze, while prohibition was enacted. Not only that. But lets use our imagination here and imagine that beer was illegal because the person who sought to make it that way, did so for personal reasons, using racial prejudice as a key social motivator.

Let's start with the first part of this hypothetical situation. If it was illegal, I wouldn't be drinking it. I would have absolutely no problem with alcohol being on the same list as marijuana.

So here's the real question. What did they do you warrant you calling the cops on them besides getting a little loud on 4/20? If you have a legitimate reason, then I'll be able to understand that, but if you did it just to "bust" them, I'm quite disappointed. You probably screwed a bunch of peoples lives up in a way you're unable to understand or empathize with.

See my first response. Also, I don't feel bad for them at all. They chose to smoke illegally so they get what they get. I just hurried things along.

[DrivenMind]

Aside from a majority of the people there being underaged? Nah, didn't bother me a bit. Having fewer losers around the block exposing this crap to young teens is always good in my book.

So I take it, before you called the police you went over and checked IDs, just to make sure your assumption of them being "under aged" was correct, and accurately founded? Or did you just guess based on the look of the "losers" that they were underaged, and deserved to suffer persecution from this rednecks states finest. Your "losers" comment shows your prejudice.

Let's start with the first part of this hypothetical situation. If it was illegal, I wouldn't be drinking it. I would have absolutely no problem with alcohol being on the same list as marijuana.

So according to your logic, the law is in all cases the supreme intellectual authority on what people should and shouldn't do with their own bodies, in the privacy of their own lives. Does it not occur to you that the law isn't always objective, or unbiased? I wonder if the the Japanese thought it was fair when they were locked up in Interment Camps based on irrational thinking, and racial discrimination alone. Do you think that kind of bull**** would stand today?

See my first response. Also, I don't feel bad for them at all. They chose to smoke illegally so they get what they get. I just hurried things along.

Something tells me you'd feel differently if you'd ever be persecuted for victim less crime, or had to spend countless hours of your life in court being prosecuted when no harm was done.

[Mr. Antonov]

Q) Am I going to b*tch about the speed limit?
A) Unlike the people in this thread complaining about pot, no I'm not. I accept the law and keep on moving.

The thing is, for weed the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Actually I had the pleasure of making an anonymous phone call that busted a 4/20 party near my residence. It was quite an enjoyable evening.

Wow.. You're a ****ing douchebag.

[DrivenMind]

In your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the law is on my side. So you can sit here and try to rationalize it all you want. At the end of the day, I still win. Accept that.

The law also states that there should be a 55 mile per hour speed limit on most of our highways. Clearly just because something is "law" doesn't mean it is, or should be obeyed. When was the last time you saw someone doing 55 on an interstate highway within 40 miles of Atlanta?

[Ran]

The law also states that there should be a 55 mile per hour speed limit on most of our highways. Clearly just because something is "law" doesn't mean it is, or should be obeyed. When was the last time you saw someone doing 55 on an interstate highway within 40 miles of Atlanta?

So? I'll drive 69 in a 55. I'll break it down like this though:

Q) Will I get a ticket for driving 65-69 in a 55 zone?
A) Probably not, but legally I can be pulled over and fined.

Q) Does general acceptance make it okay for me to speed?
A) Legally, no. If I get pulled over then I'll accept my ticket. I won't be happy about it, but I'll pay it because I'm still wrong.

Q) Am I going to b*tch about the speed limit?
A) Unlike the people in this thread complaining about pot, no I'm not. I accept the law and keep on moving.

Q) If someone called the police and said I was doing 68 in a 55 and I get pulled over, would that be wrong?
A) Can't blame the person that called because I was the one speeding. Sucks for me, but oh well.

[DrivenMind]

So? I'll drive 69 in a 55. I'll break it down like this though:

Q) Will I get a ticket for driving 65-69 in a 55 zone?
A) Probably not, but legally I can be pulled over and fined.

Q) Does general acceptance make it okay for me to speed?
A) Legally, no. If I get pulled over then I'll accept my ticket. I won't be happy about it, but I'll pay it because I'm still wrong.

Q) Am I going to b*tch about the speed limit?
A) Unlike the people in this thread complaining about pot, no I'm not. I accept the law and keep on moving.

Q) If someone called the police and said I was doing 68 in a 55 and I get pulled over, would that be wrong?
A) Can't blame the person that called because I was the one speeding. Sucks for me, but oh well.

Sounds like an awfully submissive viewpoint to take, but to each his own I suppose. If you want to pretend that politicians always have your best interests in mind feel free to do so, but history has a way of showing us that isn't always the case. Sometimes laws are made for no good reason at all.

[The12lber]

EDIT: Actually, I'm bored so I'll elaborate a little more.

So you're comparing modern society and law enforcement to what it was 80 years ago? Nice.

Alright, I'm going to break you in on a big secret.

SINCE THE TIME WHEN THE VERY FIRST STATUTES WERE ENACTED AND GOVERNMENTS PUT IN PLACE, BLACK MARKETS AND CRIMINAL UNDERWORLDS HAVE EXISTED TO SUPPLY EVERY ILLEGAL GOOD OR SERVICE AS LONG IT IS IN DEMAND. THE CRIMINAL UNDERWORLD IN QUESTION WILL USE PART OF ITS PROFITS AS OPERATIVE COSTS TO BUY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND GOVERNMENT.

Look, its still happening now with illicit drugs. Its exactly the same situation as prohibition. You are f*cking dumb for not catching onto this.

Who cares about Columbia and why did you bring them up? However, since you're bringing it up. How exactly does it feel to be supporting this civil war?

I care because they're people too and our bogus war on drugs has put their country in a persistent state of civil war for the better part of 40 years. Also, I never said I was buying drugs and supporting their civil war. Another logical fallacy, unsurprising from someone as unintelligent as yourself.

On this note, I do believe that hemp should be permissible for economical purposes like textile and what-not. As an actual resource, it can be very valuable. I've stated that in older threads as well.

So cocaine should now be legalized because it was made illegal over a supposedly racist standing?

Supposedly racist? Haha, haha, hahahaha. Oh my, there's not too many ways you can spin the notion of Congress being afraid of "cocainized n*ggers" raping white women into not being racist.

In your opinion.

Have you ever done any drugs to form a good opinion on whether or not its a big deal? I'm going to venture the guess, no.

Unfortunately for you, the law is on my side. So you can sit here and try to rationalize it all you want. At the end of the day, I still win. Accept that.

Yeah, but you're still one hell of a dumb mother****er. I'm actually fairly shocked that you assumed just because I support decriminalization and regulation of drug sales, I am a drug purchaser, indirectly funding guerilla groups and drug cartels in South America. You don't have to have a stake in an issue to recognize idiocy.

For the record, you didn't win ****. If supporting laws, statutes, etc, that were in place decades before your birth and you had nothing to do with the enactment of is considered winning, I win for actually supporting The Constitution of the United States (which all laws are mandated to be in agreement with), something drug prohibition pisses on.