Do you believe we are alone in this Universe???

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

And to be honest, I wouldn't die of a heart attack should a UFO crash in a desert somewhere tomorrow.

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I read ya. I wouldn't either. Although it would be awesome discovery, lolol.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

I currently don't see how after years of actually LOOKING FOR aliens we've never found any,

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That we know of. But, in reality to us common people, I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

why it is that some of the same people that have debated vigorously with me in the past about the lack of existence of "GOD" are the very ones that whole heartedly believe in aliens yet there is no "proof" of that either.

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That's why I brought up the pictures thing. There are "photos" that are available to us of supposed UFOs, but not of God. Some people will base off that. Also, just not knowing the vastness of space and thinking we're the only ones here is just too great to doubt.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

There's no "proof" of aliens that they are aware of, so how come they can "believe" w/o proof on that, but to believe in "God" they need a ton of "proof"???? THAT is what doesn't make any common sense to me.

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Agreed.

Remember, my posts, this includes past posts on God, don't reflect my belief. I don't know my extent, but I do think there is a God. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

That's why I brought up the pictures thing. There are "photos" that are available to us of supposed UFOs, but not of God. Some people will base off that. Also, just not knowing the vastness of space and thinking we're the only ones here is just too great to doubt.

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I see your point, just don't see how we've not been able to find something more tangible than smudgy pics in all this time. Yes, I know there are stories out there of alien abductions and sightings, but scientifically they should've been able to find something more concrete than that by now since we have substantially more advanced technology now than we did say back in the 50's.

It is hard to believe that in the vastness of space there isn't anyone else. But if there is....how come if they're so advanced to be able to space travel at will seemingly, why wouldn't they be able to communicate with us "lesser" beings then? In other words, they're advanced enough to space travel and survive but they can't figure out how to talk to us????

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Remember, my posts, this includes past posts on God, don't reflect my belief. I don't know my extent, but I do think there is a God. Later, QD.

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I know you bud. :goodjob: No worries. :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I agree with you, Jaime. There is no tangible proof. At least that we know of. I know it's not certain, verify-able proof, but there are countless photos of supposed UFOs. Also, we'll never know what NASA has hidden away, you know. There is no "photo" of God or anything of the sort. I'm not using that to try and disprove God. Just mentioning that in relation to your statement about believing in ETs and not God. But, again. I do agree with your analogy. BTW, I still find it hard to believe that we would be the only existing beings in the whole of everything. Later, QD.

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I hear ya loud and clear. The aliens have their "photo's". Religion has the bible, which accounts of such a God. Historical data on location of biblical events, the tomb of Christ, artifacts like the cross of Jesus etc etc.

If one were to compare the two evidences altogether, I would say religion has the upper hand. All we have from "aliens" is alleged photo's and video's. No sounds, no writings, no documents, no artifacts, Nothing.

We also don't know what "Rome" has hidden away... :) you know...

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Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300

If one were to compare the two evidences altogether, I would say religion has the upper hand. All we have from "aliens" is alleged photo's and video's. No sounds, no writings, no documents, no artifacts, Nothing.

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But, on the other hand, the Bible is just a written book. No one can prove that it is/was word of God. Just on what people say is what it's based on, right? Artifacts are good tangible proof, but not necessarily of the existence of God. Just of old stuff, lolol. Cool as hail, though.

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Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300

We also don't know what "Rome" has hidden away... :) you know...

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This is the cool part. We have, it seems to me, a much better chance on coming closer to proving that God exists because we have a better chance on scouring Earth than we do space. Every time I read/hear on new discoveries, I get excited. It's awesome stuff. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

But, on the other hand, the Bible is just a written book. No one can prove that it is/was word of God. Just on what people say is what it's based on, right? Artifacts are good tangible proof, but not necessarily of the existence of God. Just of old stuff, lolol. Cool as hail, though.

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yea, I hear ya !! But some artifacts do point / correlate (sp?) with the story of Jesus and happenings in the bible that took place. So the myth is proved, the real debate I guess centers on whether he was the messiah or just a man... which will be harder to prove.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

This is the cool part. We have, it seems to me, a much better chance on coming closer to proving that God exists because we have a better chance on scouring Earth than we do space. Every time I read/hear on new discoveries, I get excited. It's awesome stuff. Later, QD.

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Likewise. Whichever way the pendulum swings..... Aliens or God.. or both.. I am sure it will be quite interesting....

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Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300

yea, I hear ya !! But some artifacts do point / correlate (sp?) with the story of Jesus and happenings in the bible that took place. So the myth is proved,

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But. At the same time, I could write a book with "made up" stuff and use actual landmarks in it, also. Lolol. Religion is just a weird(not in a bad sense), yet facinating thing. Later, QD.

i love to sit and think that there has to be. i think of the universe, and the many other known ones. i do not believe in a creator, but that is another subject. it would overjoy me to hear of another life form from another universe. and to see how it has( evolved, or been created, witchever u would like to believe) it would amaze me beyond belief.

There is way more than "smudgy pics" out there. Sorry to be the one to tell you all that. I will say as much as I can w/out saying what I can't --- there is a reason that billions are being poured into an INTERNATIONAL space station - and there is a reason that those billions will NEVER stop flowing. And it's not b/c they wanna do tests on animals in space.

E T go home......

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Originally Posted by admin

Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.

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Not at all ! ! ! :no:

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Originally Posted by admin

Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.

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it would be foolish to think we are not. Take any religion you want, I can't think of 1 where it says definitativly(sp) that there are not other forms of life in the Universe. so anyone that says the ____ dosen't say that there ARE "aliens" go jump off something high. I don't remember reading about Meercats but they're here :tongue1:

Are we alone? Well... me being a ninja, naturally I'm a devout follower of the FIRST CHURCH OF THE FLYING AMPUTATED LIMBS, which is the biggest denomination of the Ninjutsuism religion. We don't so much believe in God as we play God with YOUR LIVES with our swords to your limbs and hands on your throat.

But we believe you only kill those who are deserving, you know... everybody we possibly can. I attend Ninjutsu mass for 8 minutes every Thursday. (we ninjas do everything faster). While in church, all weapons are to be left under the pews. Ninjas never kneel themselves...EVER. No killing is permitted in church and it's usually quite noisy as ninjas are wise cracking assholes to the Ninja priests. We are expected keep our bodies pure by drinking the blood (actual blood) in a cup and eating the flesh (actual flesh not symbolic) of our savior, Lord Cutyufast.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Are we alone? Well... me being a ninja, naturally I'm a devout follower of the FIRST CHURCH OF THE FLYING AMPUTATED LIMBS, which is the biggest denomination of the Ninjutsuism religion. We don't so much believe in God as we play God with YOUR LIVES with our swords to your limbs and hands on your throat.

But we believe you only kill those who are deserving, you know... everybody we possibly can. I attend Ninjutsu mass for 8 minutes every Thursday. (we ninjas do everything faster). While in church, all weapons are to be left under the pews. Ninjas never kneel themselves...EVER. No killing is permitted in church and it's usually quite noisy as ninjas are wise cracking assholes to the Ninja priests. We are expected keep our bodies pure by drinking the blood (actual blood) in a cup and eating the flesh (actual flesh not symbolic) of our savior, Lord Cutyufast.

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LOL, wtf is this???? :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by Spyder

If we were it would be an awefull waste of space.....

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Props on that qoute, first thing I though upon viewing this thread - Loved that movie when i came out.

-Contact

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

That link is as much double talking as you were. No different.

You are simply not going to prove your case by not saying anything of substance. Much like A.D.D. it's all in what you want to believe. If you believe that double talk, believe it. I don't. It's that simple.

Not one of the non-believers have yet to answer my question directly:

WHY is it that you can hold faith out for aliens w/ no tangible proof in sight, yet dismiss Christianity due to lack of proof????? That is the biggest oxymoron in the world. Why won't anyone of you guys answer that question directly?





Yes you do, you just don't want to admit it.

You believe in E.T.'s w/o logical proof. That, by definition, is FAITH. Look it up in the dictionary.




OK, Yoda. :jerkit:

What are you my mother now? I believe what I WANT to believe just as you do. I believe that Jesus Christ not only existed but is my saviour. THAT is TRUE to ME. YOU can't do a thing about that. YOU can choose to believe the same thing and then it becomes a truth to YOU. If you don't choose to believe it, it may not be true to YOU, but it doesn't change a thing for ME.

I don't understand how that's so hard to understand. You want to re-invent the wheel with all these Zen master sayings and it is simply conjecture. YOU think that because you SAY something it suddenly becomes gospel. That's simply not true. How in the world could you sit there and crassly tell ME what I KNOW to be MY "truth" HAS TO match what you think or it isn't "true"?????




Whatever. Again, another example of not seeing the forest for the trees. The only reason why you wouldn't see it is because you didn't want to.

It clearly says in plain English that SETI has had a home base at the Arecibo Observatory since 1963. It also says that although they don't get to use it around the clock, they are building a permanent unit in Cali that they will have the permanent use of.

I guess that this is also NOT an extended full time search for E.T.'s out there either, huh?:
http://www.bigear.org/guinness.htm

I guess in the UK, they also are NOT looking for E.T.'s using their telescopes either, huh?
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/research/seti/

Australia isn't looking either:
http://seti.uws.edu.au/

http://seti.uws.edu.au/SETI%20Pages/...20SERENDIP.htm

I suppose Italy is not looking FULL TIME either:

http://www.seti-italia.cnr.it/Premessa/Premise.htm


I could do this all day. Had enough yet? :rolleyes:





That is your cross to bear. Pun intended. ;)

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With J in threads like these - there's no reason for me to share my opinion anymore - You can be my Proxy Jaime. :yes:

Anyone Have that thread that Hulud posted years ago??? lol

That was probably the last time I actually shared my opinion embracing Christianity on IA.com.

It's much wiser to believe in something you or others see, or have seen, than to believe in something simply by having faith.

Idk........Hard Question...But I Do Think There Is Something Out There.

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Originally Posted by admin

Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.

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how would that interfere with the Bible? If God created the entire universe, who's to say we're the only ones in it? I'd be pretty disappointed to find that we're the best the universe has to offer. I'd like to believe we're not alone.

At one point, something STUPID called "mythology" was RELIGION. We evolved and got smarter as people and we now know better. The same will happen to today's religion as we now know it. And just like the IDIOTS who died believing in Poseidon and other gibberish that what is now known as mythology, many will die believing in Christianity - which I will admit is a better "story" than what men of old came up with - but still sounds JUST as stupid to my ears as mythology sounds to EVERYONE'S ears.

The story evolved b/c we simply do not know... but I will tell you what --> the places that I have worked for the US Dept of Defense do not ALLOW me to believe in "the bible". It's easier to believe when you do not know what I know... and that is why less than a 10th of 1 percent of the population gets to see the things I have seen. One day it will be too big to contain and I hope that I am not around to see people's world get rocked.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Whose to say that if there ever is a "close encounter of the third kind" that those little green guys won't be carrying a Bible themselves..... ;) :D

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"A" bible huh? Don't you mean THE Bible? But wait... there are many. :thinking: Whose to say that it won't be a Q'uran?;)

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My answer to the question is most likely we are not the only ones