I decided this was so funny it was worth another post. Napoleon is the famous dictator turned short lived conqueror and one of the greatest military minds of his time. His time was the early nineteenth century... and he was the dictatorial leader of France... he died a hundred years before Mussolini ruled Italy.Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
I'm in awe of how stupid you are.
i'm sorry, what?
did i not previously quote you calling me an ignorant whiner with something up his ass(sorry, 'azz')? tell me, was your idiocy a process or just an initial overabundance of chromosomes?
like you're doing?
so it's ok when you disagree, but god forbid 12lber or myself do it, you know, because we drive you insane with our stupidity.
i troll around on the internet and now my family neglects me! YOUR POWERS OF DEDUCTION ARE FRIGHTENING! you are also very clever and mature.Need attention that your not getting at home or
something? Are you speed reading or just picking between the lines to impress someone?
only my first post argued the OP. my second one was dedicated to pointing out how much of a hypocritical moron you are.
I'm all for Capitalism and the Free market as far as wealth distribution goes but I think you are heading into dangerous ground when corporations and lobbyists have influence over the market more than the people. I think if that is addressed then you begin to close the gap on wealth again.
On Obama, you guys know my feelings on that.
How can I be hypocritical if I didn't write it? Geez wake up and pay attention or are that dim? You even quoted me saying that I didn't write it and yet you still reflect back to that? I have not made but one comment about the subject of the matter but been arguing with others that doesn't seem to know how to read what I replied.
Yes I did and your still not reading but 1/2 of it. I never commented on anyone's opinion about the post only comments towards me after I have said repeatedly that I didn't compose the topic. What is this 8x now that I have said it and your still hung on it?
What? Can you interpret that one for me? What does your family have to do with it? Keep replying and I will continue to say the same things over and over until you get it or the attention your needing.
time to stock pile 40 cal. Bullets and 16 gauge shells just incase.
interesting the video is no longer available.
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Wow, you truly are just an absolute idiot that can't think beyond whatever someone regurgitates at you........WOW!!!! Since you can't think for yourself and deductive reasoning is not your friend, I'll explain what I was trying to say to those that have IQ's higher than spit. BOTH of them were dictators/Socialists who used forms of "wealth distribution", yet anyone with a high school education knows how well that worked out for BOTH of them. Get it now Mensa card carrier? Probably not.I gave you too much credit before and figured I didn't have to spell things out since you think you know so much and this was basic History. I'll be sure to use smaller words, big bold pictures, and pop-ups next time.
If you're too stupid to be able to quote someone correctly on this forum even after I've already made fun of you for being a newbie quoter, then you don't deserve any more of my attention.
Napoleon was not a socialist... he died at about the same time Karl Marx was born and had been dead for 20 years when Marx first published.
I wasn't misquoting you... you said "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini"... intimating that both were Italian dictators and possibly that both ruled Italy together at the same time.Wow, you truly are just an absolute idiot that can't think beyond whatever someone regurgitates at you........WOW!!!! Since you can't think for yourself and deductive reasoning is not your friend, I'll explain what I was trying to say to those that have IQ's higher than spit. BOTH of them were dictators/Socialists who used forms of "wealth distribution", yet anyone with a high school education knows how well that worked out for BOTH of them. Get it now Mensa card carrier? Probably not.
If you're too stupid to be able to quote someone correctly on this forum even after I've already made fun of you for being a newbie quoter, then you don't deserve any more of my attention.
More over, your arguments suck, considering both rulers were ousted by (Napoleon lived under English house arrest on an island for the rest of his life and Mussolini was caught by anti-fascist guerillas then shot and hung up like a piece of meat) foreign military force and not by economic collapse... not that Napoleon was a socialist in any case, as stated earlier.
In any case, you can refer back to my post where I listed all those terrible socialist Western European/Scandinavian countries that are horribly underdeveloped because of their socialistic tendencies. Turns out based on a composite of political freedom/healthcare/GDP per capita/etc they enjoy a higher standard of living than us.
Or perhaps you'd rather just use your anecdotal argument, like referring to countries who's problem wasn't Socialism but Fascism or countries that collapsed because of Communism, a wholly seperate economic design than socialism.
U R DUM
What happens when people ASSume???
Glad you read your 8th grade History book so you can come back and educate us all. You still missed the whole point, but I'm not even going to bother to repeat it to you again. Your head must be made of Oak.More over, your arguments suck, considering both rulers were ousted by (Napoleon lived under English house arrest on an island for the rest of his life and Mussolini was caught by anti-fascist guerillas then shot and hung up like a piece of meat) foreign military force and not by economic collapse... not that Napoleon was a socialist in any case, as stated earlier.
Then there's an SAS flight waiting to take you to the promised land.....In any case, you can refer back to my post where I listed all those terrible socialist Western European/Scandinavian countries that are horribly underdeveloped because of their socialistic tendencies. Turns out based on a composite of political freedom/healthcare/GDP per capita/etc they enjoy a higher standard of living than us.
Because there is only one kind of Socialism, right? Because not one of those different variants of Socialism have anything to do with Communism, right?Or perhaps you'd rather just use your anecdotal argument, like referring to countries who's problem wasn't Socialism but Fascism or countries that collapsed because of Communism, a wholly seperate economic design than socialism.
U R DUM
Short version, socialism works, it works better than what we have going on here, Communism and Socialism have about as much in common as our own economic system and communism. Napoleon wasn't a socialist, as far as I know never even set foot in Italy and died about a hundred years before the rise of fascism and I'm still shocked you're dumb enough to put Mussolini and Napoleon in the same sentence.What happens when people ASSume???
I wasn't assuming anything. You explicitly stated "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini".
Glad you read your 8th grade History book so you can come back and educate us all. You still missed the whole point, but I'm not even going to bother to repeat it to you again. Your head must be made of Oak.
You can just admit you are a dumbass. There really isn't any wiggle room in "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini" - none.
Also, Mussolini wasn't a socialist either.
" Much later in life Mussolini said he felt by 1919 "Socialism as a doctrine was already dead; it continued to exist only as a grudge" "
"In power, the party attempted to form an economic policy that was a "third way" between capitalism and socialism, this was called Corporatism. In theory, trade unions and businesses would unite to form a cooperative organization to establish wages, hours of labour, and other issues. However when attempted to be put into practice, corporatism was heavily criticized by the industries who had provided financing in the past to Mussolini to protect them from socialism, and demanded that he keep the labour movement weakened to maintain their support, to which Mussolini and the party agreed, causing corporatism to favour businesses over workers who could only be in Fascist unions"
The failure of this argument is threefold, not only was Mussolini not a socialist, his decline from power was the result of military action and not economic implosion and it does nothing to disprove what in fact is happening right now with socialistic countries enjoying a higher standard of living than the United States.
Then there's an SAS flight waiting to take you to the promised land.....
While its true that one country ahead of us, Australia, does indeed have a unit called the "Special Air Service", I have a feeling you are too dumb to know about this and are referring to the English unit.
England wasn't ahead of us. Once again, epic failure.
Because there is only one kind of Socialism, right? Because not one of those different variants of Socialism have anything to do with Communism, right?
Socialism is about some kind of redistribution of wealth for the benefit of the whole population.
Communism is about COMPLETE CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP OF THE ECONOMY BY THE STATE.
You were wrong, you have no idea what you are talking about and as a person you're not so smart. Bye.
Last edited by The12lber; 06-06-2008 at 02:00 PM.
You are quickly getting on my last good nerve. You can't read worth a $hit, and you certainly can't think beyond your two left feet.
SAS= SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINE(S) SYSTEM.
Scandinavia= Your promised land. The land you keep ejaculating all over yourself about being so much better than the U.S. The place where much like IA even you probably wouldn't even fit in because you're too stupid to read or comprehend.
"Get on a SAS flight"= Get on a SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES flight and go to where YOU think is all soooooo groovy and uber better than where you have your feet planted. NOT Australia, NOT Indonesia, NOT Antartica.
Get it now, jacka$$? Again, probably NOT......
Just like YOU are too thick to get the correlation that BOTH Mussolini AND Napoleon, whom we've already established even my 9 yr old son KNOWS was the ruler of FRANCE, took from wealthy people to supposedly give to the poor......ala, Robin Hood.....ala, an early form of "wealth distribution"......ala, what YOU think is so uber cool and just. It has NOTHING to do with where, when, or how they each ruled. NOTHING, stupid. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!!! Clear enough Magoo?
Seriously kid, stay off my nuts. You're not even fun to debate with. Maybe one day when you're old enough to vote, drink, have sex, or become a grown man.....THEN I may take you seriously. As it stands, you're just an irritating kid.
None of this really changes the fact that you were all crazy about the evils of socialism, I proved you wrong by pointing out that a number of socialistic countries enjoy a higher standard of living than us and now you're having an adult hissy fit. Its quite pathetic.You are quickly getting on my last good nerve. You can't read worth a $hit, and you certainly can't think beyond your two left feet.
SAS= SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINE(S) SYSTEM.
Doesn't exist lol?
Scandinavia= Your promised land. The land you keep ejaculating all over yourself about being so much better than the U.S. The place where much like IA even you probably wouldn't even fit in because you're too stupid to read or comprehend (what is this, elementary school?).
That is funny, because I'm fairly confident I was right about everything I said and had evidence to prove it and you were wrong.
I wasn't getting too excited. You were the one who went all crazy going
"SOCIALISM IS EVIL LOL, RMBR HITLER AND MUSSOLINI AND NAPOLEON N ****? AHHHH"
"Get on a SAS flight"= Get on a SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES flight and go to where YOU think is all soooooo groovy and uber better than where you have your feet planted. NOT Australia, NOT Indonesia, NOT Antartica.
Get it now, jacka$$? Again, probably NOT......
Just like YOU are too thick to get the correlation that BOTH Mussolini AND Napoleon, whom we've already established even my 9 yr old son KNOWS was the ruler of FRANCE, took from wealthy people to supposedly give to the poor......ala, Robin Hood.....ala, an early form of "wealth distribution"......ala, what YOU think is so uber cool and just. It has NOTHING to do with where, when, or how they each ruled. NOTHING, stupid. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!!! Clear enough Magoo?
You said "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini". There's no wiggling out of it, you're dumb.
On top of it, neither were socialists.
Seriously kid, stay off my nuts. You're not even fun to debate with. Maybe one day when you're old enough to vote <been registered for a year, drink < lol?, have sex <more than you, or become a grown man < I have more facial hair, muscle and a deeper voice than you.....THEN I may take you seriously. As it stands, you're just an irritating kid.
Also, the point wasn't to say "THESE GUYS ARE SOOO MUCH BETTER THAN US"
The point was that we have problems here in America and wealth redistribution is a way to fix one of them but the abundance of morons like you who base their opinions about it on misinformation and nonfact are a major speedbump.
So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????
Wow, well tell these people then......
http://www.flysas.com/Default.aspx?v...epslanguage=EN
Listen kid, you're an idiot. Socialism, Marxism, nor John Wilkes Boothe is not going to change that.
I'm serious, move along. You and your simplistic ideas that taking from the rich to give to the poor is a way to spark people to better themselves and enjoy life better. Yeah, "better" for the one that is getting something for nothing.....maybe that's what background you come from, which would explain your lunacy and backwards idealogy.
I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????
I am done with this. I get a headache every time I read this thread.So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????
I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????
BTW I need some SLR tutoring one day.
I'm with you.
Anytime you're ready, let me know. Which one did you get?
I like the Evolts. I almost bought one a while back. I had a C8080 that I loved. I wish now I'd kept that one to be honest. It took some really amazing pics for a point-and-shoot.
Let me know when you have a car meet/show and we can play with the cams then.
This is extremely amusing because if I'm not mistaken the only thing I was wrong about was Scandinavian Airlines... which really had nothing to do with our conversation anyways.So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????
Wow, well tell these people then......
http://www.flysas.com/Default.aspx?v...epslanguage=EN
Listen kid, you're an idiot. Socialism, Marxism, nor John Wilkes Boothe is not going to change that.
You do realize I was right about everything and you were wrong about everything, right?
Oops, I WAS wrong and the obscure Scandinavian Airlines does exist. That really invalidates my other points... not.
I'm serious, move along. You and your simplistic ideas that taking from the rich to give to the poor is a way to spark people to better themselves and enjoy life better. Yeah, "better" for the one that is getting something for nothing.....maybe that's what background you come from, which would explain your lunacy and backwards idealogy.
Which is why countries with socialistic policies enjoy higher standards of living, right?
Even Alan Greenspan calls the growing disparity in income in America "very concerning", and he's a bigger douchebag than you.
I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????
...am I missing something here? Because if I'm not mistaken your leaky arguments were inflated by a lot of bull**** and misinformation which are soundly refute by facts I provided. You're not really in any position to be talking so much ****. Especially when you apparently don't know Communism and Socialism aren't interchanchable terms, didn't know Mussolini wasn't a socialist and didn't know Napoleon and Mussolini weren't homeboys.
Socialistic countries enjoy a higher standard of living than America. From a post I made earlier but you conveniently ignore because it refutes your claims soundly.
" Linked before but linked once again because apparently you don't know how to copy paste things into your browser.
http://www.shannonireland.com/media/Media,2966,en.pdf
And no, despite the URL the document is hosted at, this is not Irish propaganda. That's just the first place I found the index. Most of the economists who made it were English (members of an international economic think tank).
As for these countries you seem to be intimating don't exist and I am making up, it ranks
1)Ireland
2)Switzerland
3)Norway
4)Luxembourg
5)Sweden
6)Australia
7)Iceland
8)Italy
9)Denmark
10)Spain
11)Singapore
12)Finland
13)United States
But socialism is destructive, right? roflskates"
You were wrong, get over it.
Unless you provide an argument refuting this. But you won't. Because you can't. Because you were wrong. Because you're the archetypal model of a dumb American holding onto revisionist history and ignorance to define your political philosophy and more over the archetypal dumb loudmouthed idiot.
Last edited by The12lber; 06-08-2008 at 02:04 AM.
the hypocrisy did not pertain to the copied original post, it was in reference to your subsequent posts.
yes because in my first post i said nothing about you, i said something about the content of the post. repeat it all you want. honestly, would a dictionary help you understand my posts better?
...seriously? do you even know what you are saying half the time? for ****s sake...
this is cute...*grabs popcorn and a scoreboard*
~TDR
I think we can all agree that Cheney and Rumsfeld are evil criminals.... right?.... right?
You still talking? Haven't you noticed that the only person paying you any attention is me? So, I'm going to do everyone else a favor that's already tired of your
Maybe that's how you get your rocks off, maybe this is the only attention you get in life. I don't know, nor care. You're a little kid who's just barely out of diapers and training wheels trying to lecture folks who have had REAL life experiences and not just read about them in some liberal controlled and politically correct book.
I'll tell you what.....next time there's a car meet, you and I can sit down and have a beer so you can show and impress me with your facial hair, big bad muscles, and your great outstanding knowledge of world affairs......ooops, wait.....I forgot......me, beer......you......warm glass of MILK.....and I'll make sure we're done in time for you to make curfew...
^^ u have less points.. so I'm thinkin u lose... *checks scoreboard* yup pretty sure 12lbs got ya...
~TDR
And you.....are both a nutswinger and an idiot.....since if I was only 17 on a board where 18 is the minimum age.....I'd keep my mouth shut!!!!!!
You're a true moron.....
I'm going to give you enough time to read this, say your good-byes, and then I'm going to ban you for a year.
I hope 12lber's balls tasted great enough for you now.....
You can't argue with idiots... They will bring you down to their level and then beat you with stupidity.
Most of these guys are teenagers arguing from theoretical views that they read in a book in a class room. One day when they grow balls and live a little they may understand but I doubt it very seriously.
True and I'm the worst at getting baited into it too.
You're exactly right though. While I applaud their enthusiasm at their fresh new found so-called knowledge, it's very annoying to have some snot nosed kid who still lives at home with mommy and daddy try to tell grown folks "the ways of the world" they themselves haven't ventured out into.....
I live in the same world as you and so do all the economists who figure this stuff out. You know, the guys who agree with me.True and I'm the worst at getting baited into it too.
You're exactly right though. While I applaud their enthusiasm at their fresh new found so-called knowledge,
I applaud your dismissal of the value of an actual education, therefor avoiding the evils of actual knowledge. I'm sure you'd happily get treated by a physician who never went to medschool... zzzz.
it's very annoying to have some snot nosed kid who still lives at home with mommy and daddy try to tell grown folks "the ways of the world" they themselves haven't ventured out into.....
Turns out I was right and you are an idiot. You never even bothered to counter my actual factual argument. You instead just sidestepped it and said "LOL UR A KID U LIVE WITH UR MOM".
You don't know **** about me. The irony still is, it doesn't change this fact.
I was right and you are a moron.
L8er G8er
You can whine about me playing LOLOL KEYBOARD COMMANDO, but you went right along with it and made an ass of yourself in the process.You still talking? Haven't you noticed that the only person paying you any attention is me? So, I'm going to do everyone else a favor that's already tired of your
Dude, you're going right along with it.
Hypoooccccrrriisssssyyy.
Maybe that's how you get your rocks off, maybe this is the only attention you get in life. I don't know, nor care. You're a little kid who's just barely out of diapers and training wheels trying to lecture folks who have had REAL life experiences and not just read about them in some liberal controlled and politically correct book.
I'm a little kid... let me guess, you found my wallet and checked out my driver's license? Moron.
I'll drop some reality on you. This is an internet. I COULD BE THE ****ING POPE FOR ALL YOU KNOW.
I'll tell you what.....next time there's a car meet, you and I can sit down and have a beer so you can show and impress me with your facial hair, big bad muscles, and your great outstanding knowledge of world affairs......ooops, wait.....I forgot......me, beer......you......warm glass of MILK.....and I'll make sure we're done in time for you to make curfew...
Sure, next time I am in Atlanta we can hang out. You can bask in my presence. My 6'2" height, my well defined muscles, my bass voice, my well groomed beard and soak in my actual knowledge of the world based on sources beyond outspoken pundits with autism spectrum disorders because I actually accept the truth when it contradicts what I've come to understand.
Honestly, I wouldn't have thrown that in but you've beaten the "YOU MUST BE A <X> <Y> <Z> IRL" nail into such small bits I might as well have. I didn't make any assumptions about you outside the confines of the internet, you shouldn't either dumbass.
P.S. I don't give a **** about cars or car meets. I own a ****ing four liter Jeep. I like to come here because when I'm really bored, I know just telling people the truth is enough to make them angry. Its an amusing exercise of entertainment. I don't even try, people are just so dead set on their opinions and beliefs that they came to based on nothing that they'll hold onto them no matter what.
Wealth distributions, allowing lazy or skillless people to live beyond their means. There is a reason for minimum wage, its for people who have no skills and their work is worth exactly that.
SHHHHHHHH........Yall hear that????
That's all I hear.
Should there be a wide gap in wealth in this nation?
People who make more than minimum wage are still pretty far behind.
Its also fairly easy to get left behind in this nation with no skills when becoming educated is relatively expensive.
We'd rather spend 500+ billion dollars outfitting other Americans with the latest, greatest and most effective tools to kill brown people than overhaul our educational system.
I realize you're trying to save face now, but srsly, post something on topic or stfu. All you've done is try to go at me from a personal angle instead of actually address the topic at hand. If you have something to add, go for it or just accept that you're wrong and gtfo.SHHHHHHHH........Yall hear that????
That's all I hear.
People are rich for a reason, they were either in the right place at the right time, they earned it, or they are know how to run a business.... My grandfather was CEO for Sun Microsystems and busted his ass to get there. All of his money was hard earned, why should some government program use his money for people that dont deserve it (myself included). Survival of the fittest, if you cant make it you fail. Its not anyone elses job to pull your (not you in specific) weight. I built a house at the age of 20 and with NO financial help from anyone, I dont make "a lot" of money but I am smart, deciplined and make good choices. I have set myself up to where I could rent out a room in my house, and pay most of my bills with their money. Hell even if I made rent 1/2 the amout of the bills YOUR still paying for 1/2 of my house.
Think about that next time your renting from someone whether its a house or an apartment.
Last edited by josh green; 06-09-2008 at 02:46 PM.
so instead of bragging about you being so rich, why dont you explain how you got rich enough to build a house at 20, only about 2 years after you graduated high school.
yes, there should be, im not rich, but i'm just fine. You get what you work for.
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I'm 23 and my wife and I are about to finish our house, took 2 years when its done and its gonna be exactly how we wanted it...garage for the race car and all.
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well thats great, but you didnt answer the question
Hard work and an education. Working 80hrs a week, going to school, and living with you parents for 20 years allows you plenty of time to save money. But could you point out where in my post I was bragging about being rich? I certainly dont get any enharitance from my grandfather, nor does my mother (his own daughter). The good ol USA payed for my schooling as well.
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