Dis-arming of America

[Jaimecbr900]

I wasn't misquoting you... you said "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini"... intimating that both were Italian dictators and possibly that both ruled Italy together at the same time.

What happens when people ASSume???

More over, your arguments suck, considering both rulers were ousted by (Napoleon lived under English house arrest on an island for the rest of his life and Mussolini was caught by anti-fascist guerillas then shot and hung up like a piece of meat) foreign military force and not by economic collapse... not that Napoleon was a socialist in any case, as stated earlier.

Glad you read your 8th grade History book so you can come back and educate us all. You still missed the whole point, but I'm not even going to bother to repeat it to you again. Your head must be made of Oak.

In any case, you can refer back to my post where I listed all those terrible socialist Western European/Scandinavian countries that are horribly underdeveloped because of their socialistic tendencies. Turns out based on a composite of political freedom/healthcare/GDP per capita/etc they enjoy a higher standard of living than us.

Then there's an SAS flight waiting to take you to the promised land.....

Or perhaps you'd rather just use your anecdotal argument, like referring to countries who's problem wasn't Socialism but Fascism or countries that collapsed because of Communism, a wholly seperate economic design than socialism.

U R DUM

Because there is only one kind of Socialism, right? Because not one of those different variants of Socialism have anything to do with Communism, right?

[The12lber]

What happens when people ASSume???
I wasn't assuming anything. You explicitly stated "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini".



Glad you read your 8th grade History book so you can come back and educate us all. You still missed the whole point, but I'm not even going to bother to repeat it to you again. Your head must be made of Oak.

You can just admit you are a dumbass. There really isn't any wiggle room in "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini" - none.

Also, Mussolini wasn't a socialist either.

" Much later in life Mussolini said he felt by 1919 "Socialism as a doctrine was already dead; it continued to exist only as a grudge" "


"In power, the party attempted to form an economic policy that was a "third way" between capitalism and socialism, this was called Corporatism. In theory, trade unions and businesses would unite to form a cooperative organization to establish wages, hours of labour, and other issues. However when attempted to be put into practice, corporatism was heavily criticized by the industries who had provided financing in the past to Mussolini to protect them from socialism, and demanded that he keep the labour movement weakened to maintain their support, to which Mussolini and the party agreed, causing corporatism to favour businesses over workers who could only be in Fascist unions"

The failure of this argument is threefold, not only was Mussolini not a socialist, his decline from power was the result of military action and not economic implosion and it does nothing to disprove what in fact is happening right now with socialistic countries enjoying a higher standard of living than the United States.



Then there's an SAS flight waiting to take you to the promised land.....

While its true that one country ahead of us, Australia, does indeed have a unit called the "Special Air Service", I have a feeling you are too dumb to know about this and are referring to the English unit.

England wasn't ahead of us. Once again, epic failure.

Because there is only one kind of Socialism, right? Because not one of those different variants of Socialism have anything to do with Communism, right?

Socialism is about some kind of redistribution of wealth for the benefit of the whole population.

Communism is about COMPLETE CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP OF THE ECONOMY BY THE STATE.

Short version, socialism works, it works better than what we have going on here, Communism and Socialism have about as much in common as our own economic system and communism. Napoleon wasn't a socialist, as far as I know never even set foot in Italy and died about a hundred years before the rise of fascism and I'm still shocked you're dumb enough to put Mussolini and Napoleon in the same sentence.

You were wrong, you have no idea what you are talking about and as a person you're not so smart. Bye.

[Jaimecbr900]

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You are quickly getting on my last good nerve. You can't read worth a $hit, and you certainly can't think beyond your two left feet.

SAS= SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINE(S) SYSTEM.

Scandinavia= Your promised land. The land you keep ejaculating all over yourself about being so much better than the U.S. The place where much like IA even you probably wouldn't even fit in because you're too stupid to read or comprehend.

"Get on a SAS flight"= Get on a SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES flight and go to where YOU think is all soooooo groovy and uber better than where you have your feet planted. NOT Australia, NOT Indonesia, NOT Antartica.

Get it now, jacka$$? Again, probably NOT......

Just like YOU are too thick to get the correlation that BOTH Mussolini AND Napoleon, whom we've already established even my 9 yr old son KNOWS was the ruler of FRANCE, took from wealthy people to supposedly give to the poor......ala, Robin Hood.....ala, an early form of "wealth distribution"......ala, what YOU think is so uber cool and just. It has NOTHING to do with where, when, or how they each ruled. NOTHING, stupid. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!!! Clear enough Magoo?


Seriously kid, stay off my nuts. You're not even fun to debate with. Maybe one day when you're old enough to vote, drink, have sex, or become a grown man.....THEN I may take you seriously. As it stands, you're just an irritating kid.

[The12lber]

You are quickly getting on my last good nerve. You can't read worth a $hit, and you certainly can't think beyond your two left feet.

SAS= SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINE(S) SYSTEM.

Doesn't exist lol?

Scandinavia= Your promised land. The land you keep ejaculating all over yourself about being so much better than the U.S. The place where much like IA even you probably wouldn't even fit in because you're too stupid to read or comprehend (what is this, elementary school?).

That is funny, because I'm fairly confident I was right about everything I said and had evidence to prove it and you were wrong.

I wasn't getting too excited. You were the one who went all crazy going

"SOCIALISM IS EVIL LOL, RMBR HITLER AND MUSSOLINI AND NAPOLEON N ****? AHHHH"

"Get on a SAS flight"= Get on a SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES flight and go to where YOU think is all soooooo groovy and uber better than where you have your feet planted. NOT Australia, NOT Indonesia, NOT Antartica.

Get it now, jacka$$? Again, probably NOT......

Just like YOU are too thick to get the correlation that BOTH Mussolini AND Napoleon, whom we've already established even my 9 yr old son KNOWS was the ruler of FRANCE, took from wealthy people to supposedly give to the poor......ala, Robin Hood.....ala, an early form of "wealth distribution"......ala, what YOU think is so uber cool and just. It has NOTHING to do with where, when, or how they each ruled. NOTHING, stupid. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!!!! Clear enough Magoo?

You said "Italy during Napoleon and Mussolini". There's no wiggling out of it, you're dumb.

On top of it, neither were socialists.


Seriously kid, stay off my nuts. You're not even fun to debate with. Maybe one day when you're old enough to vote <been registered for a year, drink < lol?, have sex <more than you, or become a grown man < I have more facial hair, muscle and a deeper voice than you.....THEN I may take you seriously. As it stands, you're just an irritating kid.

None of this really changes the fact that you were all crazy about the evils of socialism, I proved you wrong by pointing out that a number of socialistic countries enjoy a higher standard of living than us and now you're having an adult hissy fit. Its quite pathetic.

Also, the point wasn't to say "THESE GUYS ARE SOOO MUCH BETTER THAN US"

The point was that we have problems here in America and wealth redistribution is a way to fix one of them but the abundance of morons like you who base their opinions about it on misinformation and nonfact are a major speedbump.

[Jaimecbr900]

So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????


Wow, well tell these people then...... :

http://www.flysas.com/Default.aspx?v...epslanguage=EN

Listen kid, you're an idiot. Socialism, Marxism, nor John Wilkes Boothe is not going to change that.

I'm serious, move along. You and your simplistic ideas that taking from the rich to give to the poor is a way to spark people to better themselves and enjoy life better. Yeah, "better" for the one that is getting something for nothing.....maybe that's what background you come from, which would explain your lunacy and backwards idealogy.


I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????

[BUGMAN]

So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????
I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????

I am done with this. I get a headache every time I read this thread.

BTW I need some SLR tutoring one day.

[Jaimecbr900]

I am done with this. I get a headache every time I read this thread.

BTW I need some SLR tutoring one day.

I'm with you.

Anytime you're ready, let me know. Which one did you get?

[The12lber]

So, in your world, SAS doesn't exist, huh????


Wow, well tell these people then...... :

http://www.flysas.com/Default.aspx?v...epslanguage=EN

Listen kid, you're an idiot. Socialism, Marxism, nor John Wilkes Boothe is not going to change that.

You do realize I was right about everything and you were wrong about everything, right?

Oops, I WAS wrong and the obscure Scandinavian Airlines does exist. That really invalidates my other points... not.

I'm serious, move along. You and your simplistic ideas that taking from the rich to give to the poor is a way to spark people to better themselves and enjoy life better. Yeah, "better" for the one that is getting something for nothing.....maybe that's what background you come from, which would explain your lunacy and backwards idealogy.

Which is why countries with socialistic policies enjoy higher standards of living, right?

Even Alan Greenspan calls the growing disparity in income in America "very concerning", and he's a bigger douchebag than you.

I bet you had a cool little helmet with stickers all over and licked lots of windows on that short bus school ride back in the day, huh????

...am I missing something here? Because if I'm not mistaken your leaky arguments were inflated by a lot of bull**** and misinformation which are soundly refute by facts I provided. You're not really in any position to be talking so much ****. Especially when you apparently don't know Communism and Socialism aren't interchanchable terms, didn't know Mussolini wasn't a socialist and didn't know Napoleon and Mussolini weren't homeboys.

This is extremely amusing because if I'm not mistaken the only thing I was wrong about was Scandinavian Airlines... which really had nothing to do with our conversation anyways.

Socialistic countries enjoy a higher standard of living than America. From a post I made earlier but you conveniently ignore because it refutes your claims soundly.

" Linked before but linked once again because apparently you don't know how to copy paste things into your browser.

http://www.shannonireland.com/media/Media,2966,en.pdf

And no, despite the URL the document is hosted at, this is not Irish propaganda. That's just the first place I found the index. Most of the economists who made it were English (members of an international economic think tank).

As for these countries you seem to be intimating don't exist and I am making up, it ranks

1)Ireland
2)Switzerland
3)Norway
4)Luxembourg
5)Sweden
6)Australia
7)Iceland
8)Italy
9)Denmark
10)Spain
11)Singapore
12)Finland
13)United States

But socialism is destructive, right? roflskates"

You were wrong, get over it.

Unless you provide an argument refuting this. But you won't. Because you can't. Because you were wrong. Because you're the archetypal model of a dumb American holding onto revisionist history and ignorance to define your political philosophy and more over the archetypal dumb loudmouthed idiot.

[Jaimecbr900]

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You still talking? Haven't you noticed that the only person paying you any attention is me? So, I'm going to do everyone else a favor that's already tired of your ...."I'm right, you're wrong"......"I'm rubber, you're glue"......cry baby $hit.....and just ignore your futile attempts to play keyboard commando.

Maybe that's how you get your rocks off, maybe this is the only attention you get in life. I don't know, nor care. You're a little kid who's just barely out of diapers and training wheels trying to lecture folks who have had REAL life experiences and not just read about them in some liberal controlled and politically correct book.

I'll tell you what.....next time there's a car meet, you and I can sit down and have a beer so you can show and impress me with your facial hair, big bad muscles, and your great outstanding knowledge of world affairs......ooops, wait.....I forgot......me, beer......you......warm glass of MILK.....and I'll make sure we're done in time for you to make curfew...