Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
Sorry I didn't specify. CREATINE Esthyr(spll?) is not a monohydrate which HOLDS WATER WEIGHT which is exactly what you are talking about. I take a creatine via pill NOT power b/c I hold water badly. and if its "proven" then explain to me how my bench went up 15lbs the following off month? I was @ 250lbs when on creatine, and hit 265lbs when I wasn't taking anything at all....you don't lose strength..the ****s in ur head
fair enough that you're taking the pill. and when i said you go off it, i meant you're off it for good. being off for 1 month is recommended and of course you're not going to "lose" anything if you're being off as part of the plan.

Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
And as far as the comment on "you can gain muscle adn lose weight at the same time" is a load of ****.Your knowledgable to an extent, but dude you've got a lot to learn. Burning and building really depends on what your working. If I wanna get to 3% body fat and rip then I diet, and work my abs and do sprints(not long distance b/c that actually burns muscle instead of fat) and I build else where...Where ever you heard you can't bulk and rip at the same time..is a load of sh*t..

Now if your saying that your not going to lose weight while building muscle I'll take that. But you can still shred body fat. In turn looking leaner/stronger/healthier. Which is most peoples goal. I mean honestly, who the hell wants to just be skinny with no muscle on them? Very few people. When people say "I wanna lose weight" thats translated into "I wanna lose body fat" or "I wanna be lean" etc. It's all about eating healthy, training hard and resting in between. Getting lean doesn't necessarily mean "lose weight". I have a client right now that came to me(he's 17 years old and 225lbs @ 6 foot 1 inchess tall, and 16% body fat) He said " I wanna be ripped but still have muscle. In 1 months time he's lost 8lbs(I've got him till the end of july) and he is toning up big time. He's on the same diet I have posted above and works with me only 3 days a week. His goal is to cut his body fat percentage in half...He's well on his way. Different things work for different people but leaning out and bulking you CAN do at the same time, it just depends on what your working and how you work it and what you "fuel" youself with(eating, suppliments etc)
to lose fat, what do you have to do? lots of cardio, eat a low carb/low fat/lower calorie diet, and lift. to gain muscle, little or no cardio, eat a high calorie/higher carb/higher fat/higher protein diet, and lift. do you not see how these 2 are almost exactly the opposite? the only ppl that can "do both at the same time" to any sort of efficient degree are those how have never lifted or worked out much before, and at that point, they WILL see some positive results. however, for those that have worked out or exercised, you're 100% better off losing fat to tone, then lifting to gain.

i do agree that different things can work for different ppl bc everyones body is different, but i'm speaking for the majority of the population here. the fact of the matter is, not everyone can be a ryan reynolds and have their personal trainer and afford to put in 2-3 hrs of working out every day and have all the right supplements and food.

and lastly, i can't tell if you're 18 or 28 from the way you're posting here...but being that this isn't the WL, please show a little respect and lay off the "this is bull****, that's total crap, you have a lot more to learn" type comments.