sorry i'm at work hoss... not currently looking at one... and being a christian is based on faith... and i've read out of both kjv and niv. the bible is based on true events. faith comes in because we can't see Jesus or God but those who chose to believe believe by faith.
saying that is like saying that the death of superman is based on actual events.... its something written, but not seen or proved. if it was factual then everyone would belive it. you can go round and round on this all day. what events have been proven, everything in there is based on faith... there has never been a body found, or a tomb for Jesus. Was there someone named Jesus? Sure, i'm sure i could find a few on buford hwy, but do i think they are my savior or anything i should base my life on.... You can't sit there and say something is factual if there is not thing that can back it up.Originally Posted by Killer
George Washington was brought up earlier... there is proof he was president, ever been to DC. Try a museum.
The name was mentioned, I'm certianly not saying he didn't exsist...I think we all know that, or I figured we all would. Would the name Plato or have fit the context better...I was just bringing up the point that a lot of people believe in/of a lot of things/people they have never seen, heard, etc...
Last edited by chuck; 08-22-2005 at 07:06 PM.
I'll say this much 'cause yall knew I was gonna:
We can disect each and every religious belief and try and make things tangible. Problem is that by definition you have to have "FAITH". No matter what religion you are there will always be things about it that people will not understand. Most of the time they don't understand it because they don't want to. When you don't want to, you will always find things to justify your view point. It's not hard.
It's like trying to explain "air" or "light rays" or even "death" to a 5 yr old. It's hard for them to fathom that "air" exists even though they can't see it. It's hard for them to truly understand what "death" really is. Eventually, they get it and understand it. Not because someone blew smoke up into that "air" or because they actually "died", but because things just simply clicked.
BTW, there have been many many scholars that have in fact shown proof that many things in the bible tangibly happened. Again, if you want to find that info, you will. Same goes the other way. It's ironic that the majority of people, lifestyles, dress, parts of the world, and many other things mentioned in the bible have in fact been proven to have existed and are even common knowledge. How can that be "accurate" and other parts not????
What's truly ironic is that some people believe in the infinite wisdom of single celled organisms that magically morph into humans, pangea, the big bang, and A.D.D. but they can't fathom something bigger than themselves.Single cell protozoa are smarter than all the brightest minds in the world because they supposedly "made" a human and real humans can only copy them.
The Quran is also written in paper just like the bible. How come noone is questioning it's validity like the Bible????? No disrespect meant, since I'm not the one questioning it, but it's a valid question.
that's because He ascended into heaven after He arose from the dead........ and i'm sure there are a lot of unmarked graves/tombs out there.... As much as i would love to be able to convince you to believe, I understand we have different opinions. But your basically trying to tell me it's all fake and that the Bible is just a huge story book... there are a lot of things in this world that can not fully be explained, yet plenty of people believe in... it's been a great discussion but i think i'm done with it.... thanks for all the opinions..
Ok, if he arose from the dead, there wouldn't be a body??? Com'on your talking about everything your religion is based around.
By the way this isn't a topic of "convicing people to believe" its a discussion for adults. I'm not asking you to take on my view i merely started this w/ some things i have read/scene. You can't always expect people to think the same way you do, if your GOD gave us minds to think i'm definately going to use it
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