View Poll Results: Will Obama tear apart the country?

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    We shouldnt have been in Iraq anyway.

    Why did we go?
    -WMDs?
    -free their people?


    sounds like a bunch of BS. If Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to liberate people why didnt we invade some subsaharan African nation? Why didnt they decide to go into North Korea? They have WMDs and people that are not free.... hell you even have evidence of WMDs in North Korea. We could EASILY topple any subsaharan African nation, many were there is violence and oppression. North Korea is a third the size of Iraq, a blitzkrig on the DPRK would have effectivly eliminated the threat of them striking back, then a clean up of remaining forces would have been easy. We have clear evidence of WMDs in DPRK and evidence of human oppression. Why did we not invade DPRK?
    Because Cheny and Rumsfeld and MANY others wanted the goodies in the middle east, and the joys it could bring them and the people and companies connected to them.

    Liberating people and getting rid of WMDs is NOT the true reason we went into Iraq. Think about it, there are countries out there that have not free people, and have others that have WMDs. But the one thing they dont have is resources we need. Also dont forget about the few people it can benefit.

    President Dwight Eisenhower warned us about this very thing in his farewell speech to the American public:
    "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...
    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together."


    There is no good reason to stay in Iraq, our job is done there. And once we leave, the insurgent's job will be done too. There is other fighting for power and stuff, but we can leave that to the Iraqi army which we are training and the special forces that we will leave behind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmP8Bgof6KE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY -Why We Fight
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/ -PBS documentary "Bush's War"
    Last edited by MrJettastic86nz; 06-05-2008 at 04:26 PM.

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