If your opinion of me mattered I'd be hurt.Originally Posted by pharm_teg
#1 that's 50 more people than YOU've ever hired. #2 What should be amuzing to you is how a snot nosed kid like yourself would remotely think that if MY knowledge is "limited"......what do you call yours???? Non-existent???? Yet, you want to talk down to me about a degree you DON'T even have yet, a career that hasn't even started, and money you THINK is guaranteed.Hiring 50 people does not make you a career advisor. Again, I find it amusing that you're giving "advice" solely based on your limited knowledge. Are you recruiting CEOs? Perhaps a few CFO's?
Unlike you pal, I've BEEN to college, I've GRADUATED college, I've been in the job market longer than you've been alive probably, I've interviewed for a number of professional positions, I've been everything from the peon to management, I own my own company, AND I do KNOW exactly what to look for in prospects for employment because that IS one MY duties as a business owner. So you see my arrogant young friend, I don't give one single rat's ass if you want to listen to what I'm saying or not. MY life is already made, so you listening or not to my advice will not change that or make me lose a wink of sleep. YOU on the other hand are still wet behind the ears and if you continue to chase dollars that may not exist instead of sense, you'll remain wet behind the ears the rest of your life. Wanna bet?
Perhaps. Although I've asked for you to disclose those grandious plans of yours to see if you are being realistic or not and for some reason you've decided not to. Once again; why don't you just tell us what your MAJOR is and what JOB it is that is GUARANTEED to you upon your graduation that will net you all this money you're seeking?????? Remember, a J-O-B is the only thing that will net you $. Words on a piece of paper are meaningless w/o one. Agree or disagree?Perhaps I view things differently since I know what I want as a career and always have.
To be honest, if this question is a sign of your student skills as a READER......college may not be for you sir.....I've said that and even used Pharmacists as an example myself since one of my first posts on this subject. So to answer your inquiry, yes I do understand that SOME career choices REQUIRE a specialized degree. I do. I said it already like 10 times. I've also said that if your career choice DOES NOT fall into those few specialized only fields for what you want to do AFTER graduation, then it would silly to chose a specialized field in the first place simply because you read somewhere that "it made money". Got it now or are you gonna keep arguing with me about that???I'm sure you do understand that many career choices REQUIRE specialized degrees and licensing, therefore better compensation. Let me know if you can find a Pharmacist with just a BS...lol.
No, but at the same time I'm not dumb enough to fantasize that all I need to "learn" comes from a book either. And I also KNOW that there are far more things that you learn that are NOT taught in school too.Just out of curiosity...are you one of those old timers that thinks "fancy book learnin" isn't necessary?
Again, your reading skills are a bit lack luster since I said that already. BTW, your statement should read, ".....degrees will get your foot in the door TOO ". There are far more positions for people with a degree AND experience than there are for people with merely a degree. That's what I've been saying all along and you want to fight me tooth and nail for it.No matter how much experience you have, in an ideal coporate environment ( I don't know where you work) degrees will get your foot in the door.
Or perhaps your smugness clouds your judgement?Perhaps we are viewing things at diff levels or perhaps you have lower standards. JP Morgan is not going to care you managed a Wendy's or have the real life experience you wholeheartedly advocate. They want to know what you graduated with and the school you attended.
JP Morgan may not care about a former Wendy's manager, but do you honestly think that YOU and ONLY you are the one's bidding for that JP Morgan job????? Something you keep failing to acknowledge is that YOU are NOT going to be the ONLY one bidding for that JP Morgan job sir. YOU are only 1 of many my man. And I'm telling YOU that when you are bidding for a job a "degree" is ONLY 1 of many factors used when considering someone for a position. IF it's the ONLY thing you have, you WILL rank near the bottom of the totem pole IF other applicants have ANY degree AND experience. So in other words, there are quite a few times where ANY degree is perfectly fine but NO experience isn't. So when you are going against someone that has a degree that YOU deem "lesser" or as you call it...."a cop out"....BUT they have more experience than YOU......you'll call that person sir or boss soon enough my friend. That's LIFE. That is REALITY. YOU don't want to believe it, good for you. One day you'll find out the hard way then.
BTW, did you even consider that most high end professional jobs aren't simply posted in the Sunday paper? Did you consider the fact that most high end positions are promoted from WITHIN or RECRUITED??? Do you think that all those high end offers are gonna magically gonna pour in when you get to turn your tassel from the left to the right???? So once again, like I've said a gazillion times, EXPERIENCE will trump a degree when the degree is the ONLY thing you have.
The absolute most intelligent thing you've said EVER. Too bad I've said like a hundred times already. But I'm glad you're now arguing the case for the prosecution rather than the defense......In the long run, a degree and experience will get you further.
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