God vs. Science

[The12lber]

Maybe it's because that wasn't the video posted earlier. See how important context is...



You apparently think you're much smarter than you actually are. GT does in fact have an IQ field, also known as SAT scores from which IQ is a mathematical derivative. You need to sit back, open your ears, and close your mouth.

Wow, you are INSANELY stupid. Not only is the SAT NOT A DETERMINANT OF IQ. If you've ever taken an IQ test, it differs dramatically in important areas from the SAT. In academia, the idea of the two sharing an absolute and direct relationship is about as widely accepted as James Bond in Harlem. There are numerous criticisms of why the SAT is a bad test of anything to begin with. Go search for criticisms of SAT on Google, or Wiki SAT.

More over, I'd like to add that if you feel comfortable with the notion that SAT and IQ share a direct and absolute relationship, you're also comfortable with the notion that as a whole certain racial groups have lower IQs than their asian and white bretheren because these groups have lower SAT scores on average (and therefore their race is inherently less intelligent). So I hope you're cool with that.



In other news, I'm still in disbelief you're that dumb that you couldn't use your logic to figure this out for yourself.

[man]

Wow, you are INSANELY stupid. Not only is the SAT NOT A DETERMINANT OF IQ. If you've ever taken an IQ test, it differs dramatically in important areas from the SAT. In academia, the idea of the two sharing an absolute and direct relationship is about as widely accepted as James Bond in Harlem. There are numerous criticisms of why the SAT is a bad test of anything to begin with. Go search for criticisms of SAT on Google, or Wiki SAT.

More over, I'd like to add that if you feel comfortable with the notion that SAT and IQ share a direct and absolute relationship, you're also comfortable with the notion that as a whole certain racial groups have lower IQs than their asian and white bretheren because these groups have lower SAT scores on average (and therefore their race is inherently less intelligent). So I hope you're cool with that.



In other news, I'm still in disbelief you're that dumb that you couldn't use your logic to figure this out for yourself.

Where did I say SAT and IQ are absolute and direct relatives? I said derivative. Meaning you can derive and approximate IQ level based on a person's SAT score. If you don't believe that they are related in any way you may want to give up on life. As for whether I've taken an IQ test, first one was in 5th grade, led to an SAT the summer after which then put me in Calculus at UCF, when I was 14.
As for whether or not some races have higher IQs than others, statistically speaking yes. But we all know the problem with statistics. Why wouldn't I be cool with that?
As for logic, you seem to be the one that's lacking.

But let's try to get back on topic. I'm done arguing with high schoolers.

[The12lber]

Where did I say SAT and IQ are absolute and direct relatives? I said derivative. Meaning you can derive and approximate IQ level based on a person's SAT score. If you don't believe that they are related in any way you may want to give up on life.
As for whether or not some races have higher IQs than others, statistically speaking yes. But we all know the problem with statistics. Why wouldn't I be cool with that?
As for logic, you seem to be the one that's lacking.

But let's try to get back on topic. I'm done arguing with high schoolers.

There is, but if it isn't an absolute and direct relationship why even reference it in relation to your IQ?

And yes, that's the point. There are problems with statistics. So don't build arguments around them alone. That is all.

[man]

There is, but if it isn't an absolute and direct relationship why even reference it in relation to your IQ?

It's what we like to call using logic. x+3=5 vs. 2=2
See the difference. We use proofs and logic to determine relationships. A direct relationship only requires your senses.

And yes, that's the point. There are problems with statistics. So don't build arguments around them alone. That is all.

I don't believe I ever brought statistics into this. I think you might be confusing logic with statistics.

BTW, you should try laying off the personal attacks. It might result in you being taken seriously.

[TheChosenOne]

I just realized that the tone is this thread is way to intense for a car forum.

Listen, we may not all have the same religious beliefs, but I know onw thing we ALL have in common... our passion for out automobiles.

Jesus, Muhammed, God, Alah,...Science... yeah, it's important, but lets not let these differences fortify and type or form religious biggotry.

Com'mon... group hug! (no homo)

One thing remains true. We all want to know the answer to life. If everyone was trying to get somewhere by taking the same path, if they got lost, there would be no alternative and we would all be up shiit creek. Maybe there is a reason that humans are gifted with our curious intellect... the more ways we use to try and find the key, the more likely we are to actually find it.

[The12lber]

It's what we like to call using logic. x+3=5 vs. 2=2
See the difference. We use proofs and logic to determine relationships. A direct relationship only requires your senses.

Except what you were trying to state was more like (variable IQ) + 3 = SAT score...

When in reality its more like variable IQ + what level of math you took + what level of english you took + how much you read on your off time + whether or not you paid attention in class + how competent your teacher was + what the curriculum was like + how much you prepared for your SAT + etc = your SAT score.

What you were trying to state was that IQ was the ONLY variable.


I don't believe I ever brought statistics into this. I think you might be confusing logic with statistics.

IQ and SAT scores are both statistics, sir.

As a side note, both equations were examples of items that share a direct and absolute (!= absolute value btw, absolute also means complete, unwavering, entirely consistent, etc) relationship. You might as well have written "2=2 vs 2=2, see the difference?" seeing as how there was only one variable. You couldn't even get that right, so don't insult my logic.

The reality is too complex for a math problem. What you're doing is only approximating IQ, which you yourself said. Let substitute a connotative synonym for "approximating", guess, in its place.

You can use math to guess, with varying degrees of accuracy, what someone's IQ is. Its that simple. Its not a reliable method, so calling the SAT field the "IQ field" is a plainly false.

Basically, you were wrong and you were a condescending ******* whilst being wrong.

[man]

As a side note, both equations were examples of items that share a direct and absolute (!= absolute value btw, absolute also means complete, unwavering, entirely consistent, etc) relationship. You might as well have written "2=2 vs 2=2, see the difference?" seeing as how there was only one variable. You couldn't even get that right, so don't insult my logic.

The reality is too complex for a math problem. What you're doing is only approximating IQ, which you yourself said. Let substitute a connotative synonym for "approximating", guess, in its place.

You can use math to guess, with varying degrees of accuracy, what someone's IQ is. Its that simple. Its not a reliable method, so calling the SAT field the "IQ field" is a plainly false.

Basically, you were wrong and you were a condescending ******* whilst being wrong.

LOL Alright kiddie. Now I'm being condescending. This is worthless. In no way will you be able to prove your intelligence or mine. This is the internet. YOU were the one who started by being condescending, even though you have nothing to show other than moronic thoughts. YOU are the one who clearly doesn't understand logic. I merely put the simple equation to show the difference between that which is blatantly obvious and that which requires logic (btw you're a moron if you don't think x+3=5 requires logic) You clearly don't understand what is going on here and are trying to bring me down to your level. Your demeanor alone confirms any doubts that you are a weak individual. Calling people out over the internet. Someone states a fact that you think is wrong, tell them, don't act like a buffoon.

Get back on topic.

[The12lber]

LOL Alright kiddie. Now I'm being condescending. This is worthless. In no way will you be able to prove your intelligence or mine. This is the internet. YOU were the one who started by being condescending, even though you have nothing to show other than moronic thoughts. YOU are the one who clearly doesn't understand logic.

Clearly, I don't understand logic because I disagree with you and I thought your example was stupid and pointless given the topic of discussion.

I merely put the simple equation to show the difference between that which is blatantly obvious and that which requires logic (btw you're a moron if you don't think x+3=5 requires logic) You clearly don't understand what is going on here and are trying to bring me down to your level. Your demeanor alone confirms any doubts that you are a weak individual. Calling people out over the internet. Someone states a fact that you think is wrong, tell them, don't act like a buffoon.

LOLOLOL HYPOCRISY MUCH?

Get back on topic.

Quickly, its clear that I was wrong from the beginning, GET BACK ON TOPIC SIR. zzzzz.

I notice you don't care to address anything I said about how you can't reliably calculate someone's IQ from their SAT score because of the myriad of other factors that determine said final score. My logics and maths are ironclad, bye.