God vs. Science

[NAG2I]

Uhh that's not really a way to "look at it", that's a fact. An unsourced story isn't evidence of anything supernatural. Its evidence of the existence of literature, bad literature with painfully one dimensional characters, unexciting stories with hackneyed settings and predictable outcomes. If you can explain to me how something being written about in one source with nothing to compliment it is evidence of anything but the author's lively imagination I welcome you to.

The bible not only contradicts itself (old/new testament!?) but the world we live in (see problem of evil in previous post). More over, "back in the day", church officials used to get together and decide which books would go in the bible and which would be ommited. Its all the word of god, but apparently some of the word of god wasn't worth putting in the bible.

alright to answer your questions or propositions saying that the bible is a bunch of made up stories from some guys a long time ago that liked writting.

"It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever contradicted a biblical reference ."

a respected classical historian at Oxford says about the book of Acts,
"For Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming...any attempt to reject its basic historicity even in matters of detail must now appear absurd."

"The Bible is literally filled with detailed prophecies that have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy."

"To be skeptical of the 27 documents in the New Testament, and to say they are unreliable is to allow all of classical antiquity to slip into obscurity, for no documents of the ancient period are as well attested bibliographically as these in the New Testament."

it really takes very little research to find that the bible we read today is almost identical to the ancient texts. im not sure where you get the fact that church officials pick and chose which books would be in the bible but i wouldn't mind seeing who wrote that.

[The12lber]

alright to answer your questions or propositions saying that the bible is a bunch of made up stories from some guys a long time ago that liked writting.

"It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever contradicted a biblical reference ."

This is plainly false. A specific and significant example. Jews in bondage in Egypt? NOWHERE BUT THE BIBLE. Moses? NOWHERE BUT THE BIBLE. There is no other evidence. NONE.


a respected classical historian at Oxford says about the book of Acts,
"For Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming...any attempt to reject its basic historicity even in matters of detail must now appear absurd."

This is undoubtedly true. Notice he refers to The Book of Acts only, though. The bible is full of individual books. One being true doesn't make the entire thing true by association, I'm not sure if you're trying to be misleading or you're that dumb.

"The Bible is literally filled with detailed prophecies that have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy."

ORLY? This one isn't even worth refuting. I can find plenty of quotes arguing that Nostradamus and Mayan priests were flawless fortune tellers as well.

"To be skeptical of the 27 documents in the New Testament, and to say they are unreliable is to allow all of classical antiquity to slip into obscurity, for no documents of the ancient period are as well attested bibliographically as these in the New Testament."

The New Testament is only part of the bible. The New Testament is indeed more or less historically accurate. The New Testament is also, more or less, far less fantastic in its storytelling than the Old.

it really takes very little research to find that the bible we read today is almost identical to the ancient texts. im not sure where you get the fact that church officials pick and chose which books would be in the bible but i wouldn't mind seeing who wrote that.

This is true. Obviously, you didn't understand what I said. "Back in the day", meant to insinuate the somewhat distant past, there were indeed meetings during which the contents of The New Testament was decided upon. It will only take, in your words "very little research" to verify this.

Past iterations of The New Testament are indeed similar to the current one. Not all "Books" by theological writers were added to the bible, however.

You haven't really demonstrated anything here. Not only is this a collection of falsehoods and half truths, it also fails in respects to demonstrating how literature can be explicit evidence of the existence of the supernatural. If I were you I'd watch Penn & Teller's BS episode on The Bible's historical accuracy if you want further education.

[Maniac1]

If I were you I'd watch Penn & Teller's BS episode on The Bible's historical accuracy if you want further education.

LOL! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

[NAG2I]

LOL! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

about this video
if we followed all the rules of the old testament today. it would be a crazy world.
christianity itself wasn't even created until after the old testament. not to say that nothing in the old testament is correct.

[man]

about this video
if we followed all the rules of the old testament today. it would be a crazy world.
christianity itself wasn't even created until after the old testament. not to say that nothing in the old testament is correct.

Plus the video is merely stating how society doesn't follow the bible. Not how the bible is contradictory.

[The12lber]

Plus the video is merely stating how society doesn't follow the bible. Not how the bible is contradictory.

You obviously have a double digit IQ for coming to this conclusion if you watched this video the whole way through.

[man]

You obviously have a double digit IQ for coming to this conclusion if you watched this video the whole way through.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Does GA tech accept people with double digit IQs? Damn I must have slipped under their radar because it sure as hell wasn't my grades that produced that acceptance letter.

[Maniac1]

about this video
if we followed all the rules of the old testament today. it would be a crazy world.
christianity itself wasn't even created until after the old testament. not to say that nothing in the old testament is correct.

Exactly! So what did people do after the new testament was made? Changed it up! If christianity was created after the old testament, then that means they're not going by what the original god said, but going by what the new one wants. Hmm this just doesn't make sense...

[NAG2I]

Exactly! So what did people do after the new testament was made? Changed it up! If christianity was created after the old testament, then that means they're not going by what the original god said, but going by what the new one wants. Hmm this just doesn't make sense...

no this is very untrue. you must not know what changed from the new and old testament and why things were different.
jesus dying changed a lot of things. doesn't mean God changed.

[Maniac1]

no this is very untrue. you must not know what changed from the new and old testament and why things were different.
jesus dying changed a lot of things. doesn't mean God changed.

Actually I don't know, care to post up what did change? Maybe then I could get a better picture of the old/new bible.

Also, tell me what changed after jesus got crucified. Because from what I know, things changed for the good, right? Do you know of any actual evidence of jesus christ ever existing? Or are you just following what the bible tells you?