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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides
    You contradict yourself there.

    You are saying that there were other gods that didn't do anything unless the person that worshipped them imagined it. I say the exact same thing about you and your religion. Prove me wrong.

    You say that the one and true god has always been there. How can you be so bold as to say that someone elses gods were imagined and yours is not? That takes some spiritual balls my friend for you to be so conceited as to think that yours is the only one and true way. So Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and all of them are just screwed? Laugh, take your head out of the clouds.

    You cannot, and will never be able to prove me wrong simply for one reason, there is no concrete proof of any single thing that god has done. You say he created the earth, I say it was created naturally over billions of years. You say that God created life, sicence has proven life's creation. Everything that you claim to say is a miracle of God has been proven by science. Prove to me there is a heaven. You can't and you won't be able too. The only person you can prove it to is yourself and other believers of your faith. Outside of your faith, it is all nothing.

    Now, the downside to this scientific thing is that there is no wonder and magic left in the world. One thing Christ had going for him was magic. Christians attacked Harry Potter for witchcraft, but wasn't god a magician in the truest sense of the word? Having magical powers to turn water into wine, split bread to feed thousands. All of that is magic or sorcery.

    Lets check some out shall we.

    Exodus 14: Moses parts the Red Sea -with a serpent/staff. Joshua 3:16: Joshua parts the Jordan -when feet of Priests touched water

    Kings 17:1; 18:45: Elijah commands rain (see also James 5:17) - pretty much a Wizardry thing

    John 2:9: Jesus turns water to wine - Like Dionysus , god of Wine before him, and celebrated by "the Church" on the same day that Dionysus did it. Interesting. Borrowed from another religion yet again.

    Let's not even start on Revelations and it's incredible likenesses to magic. To any child who read revelations and watched Harry Potter, they are one in the same. But yet religious nuts and bible thumpers are quick to trounce on Harry Potter, along with the Pope and condemn it.

    When all is said and done, all you have to fall on is your faith in a book that was edited by Romans to include what they wanted to you read and know. You are a slave to your religion and in the hopefully not false prophecies of a religion that is responsible for more murders throughout history than any other single entity combined. But sleep better knowing that you can sling your deadly religion as much as you want, commit any sin you want short of blaspheming the holy spirit and then go to church, toss a few dollars in the collection plate and ask forgiveness. That makes it all better. Money and grovelling.
    We could go back and forward about what is real and what is not real.. You believe what you belive and I don't consider you dumb for it.. However, I do believe that there is only one way to heaven - Through Jesus Christ. I'm not trying to be ballsey - its just what i believe. I don't believe that just because you choose to believe in anything God is going to give you a get into heaven free card.. You have to believe in him and rec' his son Jesus. As far as the religion... I don't believe that I can do any thing i want to and just ask for forgivness and all is well.. Truely God does forgive us because we believe in him but we can't just act like fools other wise it proves that we really don't believe in him or worshop him.. I'm not a slave to my belief, I'm a son and a child of God..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMEK18
    We could go back and forward about what is real and what is not real.. You believe what you belive and I don't consider you dumb for it.. However, I do believe that there is only one way to heaven - Through Jesus Christ. I'm not trying to be ballsey - its just what i believe. I don't believe that just because you choose to believe in anything God is going to give you a get into heaven free card.. You have to believe in him and rec' his son Jesus. As far as the religion... I don't believe that I can do any thing i want to and just ask for forgivness and all is well.. Truely God does forgive us because we believe in him but we can't just act like fools other wise it proves that we really don't believe in him or worshop him.. I'm not a slave to my belief, I'm a son and a child of God..
    Understood. It is nice to actually talk to a christian that isn't oppressive. There are so few of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides
    Understood. It is nice to actually talk to a christian that isn't oppressive. There are so few of them.
    I agree, and even though we have different beliefs - GLIDES, I respect you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMEK18
    I agree, and even though we have different beliefs - GLIDES, I respect you!
    You too man. Nothing wrong with beliefs as long as you respect that others have different ones. That's why these discussions are always bad at any sort of social gathering because they always end up bad.

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