Thousands rally in La. to support Jena 6-

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this thread title shoudl have been changed @ page 2 because its not about jena 6 anymore. There is so much wrong information in thread its ridiculious.

WE all agree that they should be punished for waht they did..YES... and we all agree that 15-22 years in prison for that is ridiculious.. All this extra shit solavery shit is irrelevant. someone please find anything that says that soemone wants them to be freed and not be charged with anything.

as soon as a race issue pops up .. most people dont even read the facts or care to try and see whats goin on.

i was hoping that noone would make a thread about this..because it wouldturn into a severe exchange of wrong biased information...

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Originally Posted by JITB

wow

this thread title shoudl have been changed @ page 2 because its not about jena 6 anymore. There is so much wrong information in thread its ridiculious.

WE all agree that they should be punished for waht they did..YES... and we all agree that 15-22 years in prison for that is ridiculious.. All this extra shit solavery shit is irrelevant. someone please find anything that says that soemone wants them to be freed and not be charged with anything.

as soon as a race issue pops up .. most people dont even read the facts or care to try and see whats goin on.

i was hoping that noone would make a thread about this..because it wouldturn into a severe exchange of wrong biased information...

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Yup. I stopped reading at page 2 after that idiot domkinik-whatever posted.

Quoting wrong information and spouting off random BS as fact.

As for the others speaking on wanting this country to be equal; stop crap TV channels like BET and stop forming all-black schools and loans and grants for minorities (be it hispanics, asians, or african americans).

It's incredibly funny how minorities don't complain about those things but will cry and moan if there is something similar for whites.

For what it's worth, I'm a minority.

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Originally Posted by iloveboost

As for the others speaking on wanting this country to be equal; stop crap TV channels like BET and stop forming all-black schools and loans and grants for minorities (be it hispanics, asians, or african americans).

It's incredibly funny how minorities don't complain about those things but will cry and moan if there is something similar for whites.

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Thats what minorities do they help each other out.... As a minority view others have easier time gettin things done and making a future for themselves. AS a minority its a fact that you will have to work harder to get the things that a native wouldnt. Not to say that other races or whatever dont work hard to get what they have...its just been proven.

Example, say a group of people move to a new place they know nothing about and know noone else but themselves.. noone wants to help and they look a tthem as less. So what does that group of minorities do? They help themselves...and get themselves together.. And so on and so on..

FYI, BET is owned by MTV? And all bet is black entertainment channel, a channel that is shows things that entertain black people. How many channels on TV have a dedicated show that shows nothin but rap videos? Noone else will make it so.. we gt our own channel whats the problem?

Decades ago, blacks werent gettin enough money to get the right education couldnt rely on scholarships from all white universities who didnt allow blacks.. So what did black people do, made a organization that makes sure that the resources are available for blacks to get a good education.

Is tehr even all balck schools? its not like that because white people arent allowed its like that because tahts how it is. Its a historically black college..and if other races dont want to go there whos fault is that?

The same with asians/hispanics and whomever..

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Originally Posted by neoP5

To the ppl who think black ppl are not racists watch this video

http://www.hiphopdx.com/blogs/MrZela...the-world.html

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no shit man. ive seen that before. if a white man said this he would be in jail and al sharpton and jesse jackson would be all over their ass.


period


if i could put a bullet in his head i would.... gladly

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Originally Posted by JITB

Thats what minorities do they help each other out.... As a minority view others have easier time gettin things done and making a future for themselves. AS a minority its a fact that you will have to work harder to get the things that a native wouldnt. Not to say that other races or whatever dont work hard to get what they have...its just been proven.

Example, say a group of people move to a new place they know nothing about and know noone else but themselves.. noone wants to help and they look a tthem as less. So what does that group of minorities do? They help themselves...and get themselves together.. And so on and so on..

FYI, BET is owned by MTV? And all bet is black entertainment channel, a channel that is shows things that entertain black people. How many channels on TV have a dedicated show that shows nothin but rap videos? Noone else will make it so.. we gt our own channel whats the problem?

Decades ago, blacks werent gettin enough money to get the right education couldnt rely on scholarships from all white universities who didnt allow blacks.. So what did black people do, made a organization that makes sure that the resources are available for blacks to get a good education.

Is tehr even all balck schools? its not like that because white people arent allowed its like that because tahts how it is. Its a historically black college..and if other races dont want to go there whos fault is that?

The same with asians/hispanics and whomever..

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when i get rich im gonna make W.E.T. .... and NO that would not be a porn channel.


see how long it is before it gets shut down.

and why, of all places, was this moved to WALLSTREET??????

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Originally Posted by Glides

Agreed, hanging a noose was racist. BUT, there is not a low on the books that says you cannot do it. So nobody broke the law when they did that. BUT when the 6 blacks beat up the white guy, well...there IS a law on the books against that. So it's no longer about race, it's about law. And the law says they did wrong. They are in the wrong, not the noose hangers in the eyes of the law.

Was the noose right, no way. But it wasn't a law breaker. So all the rallyer's are basically rallying behind criminals. And they are doing it because they are black. So THATS RACIST. You guys are condoning criminal activity because of a skin color. I don't know wnats more racist than that.

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actually your wrong......

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

basically stating if the black wanted to, they could sue the school as well as the white guys who put those nooses up. For many thing, negligence, hate crime, mental distress, disturbance of the school and students, theres many reason than one and rascisim plays a big part in the white guys actions.

I think, if you decide to show some kind of action of hate. be careful, not everyone feels the same way you do. there is a reaction for every action....good or bad. it's almost as if they were asking for it.

i didnt read the whole article but i thought it was more than one person for each race that got into it by the tree. And the white guy got beat up by a shoe....and not beat up to a pulp, it was just a regular ass whoopin.

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Originally Posted by JITB

Thats what minorities do they help each other out.... As a minority view others have easier time gettin things done and making a future for themselves. AS a minority its a fact that you will have to work harder to get the things that a native wouldnt. Not to say that other races or whatever dont work hard to get what they have...its just been proven.

Example, say a group of people move to a new place they know nothing about and know noone else but themselves.. noone wants to help and they look a tthem as less. So what does that group of minorities do? They help themselves...and get themselves together.. And so on and so on..

FYI, BET is owned by MTV? And all bet is black entertainment channel, a channel that is shows things that entertain black people. How many channels on TV have a dedicated show that shows nothin but rap videos? Noone else will make it so.. we gt our own channel whats the problem?

Decades ago, blacks werent gettin enough money to get the right education couldnt rely on scholarships from all white universities who didnt allow blacks.. So what did black people do, made a organization that makes sure that the resources are available for blacks to get a good education.

Is tehr even all balck schools? its not like that because white people arent allowed its like that because tahts how it is. Its a historically black college..and if other races dont want to go there whos fault is that?

The same with asians/hispanics and whomever..

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what the white kid did is what we in america call freedom of expression,so no crime there,u may not like what he did,but he had the right too.......now what the black kids did is a crime in 50 states.

where is this going?

just wondering.
i read the first 2 pages
and the last 2
and its still the same thing repeated like 20 times.

but really
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darrin

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

what the white kid did is what we in america call freedom of expression,so no crime there,u may not like what he did,but he had the right too.......now what the black kids did is a crime in 50 states.

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Apparently this so called freedom of speech isn't so free because two people were arrested today in that same town for riding around with nooses hanging off of their truck.............:lmfao:

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Originally Posted by StuntallDay

Apparently this so called freedom of speech isn't so free because two people were arrested today in that same town for riding around with nooses hanging off of their truck.............:lmfao:

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so we have Freedom of speech,but cant say anything thats hurts anyone's feelings

BULLSHIT!

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

and why, of all places, was this moved to WALLSTREET??????

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I asked it to be moved there because that section is also for NEWS items. As much as certain think it is, racism is hardly a LIFESTYLE. This is even worse section than the WL. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

what the white kid did is what we in america call freedom of expression,so no crime there,u may not like what he did,but he had the right too.......now what the black kids did is a crime in 50 states.

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

when i get rich im gonna make W.E.T. .... and NO that would not be a porn channel.


see how long it is before it gets shut down.

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Be stupid if u want, but tell me what could your white entertainment channel show thats not already on tv? Just like the spanish channel, and the womens channel. its a channel thats directed towards a certain group of people.

Take one thing and get outrageous with it, like you dont know why its like that.

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

what the white kid did is what we in america call freedom of expression,so no crime there,u may not like what he did,but he had the right too.......now what the black kids did is a crime in 50 states.

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actually what the white kid did was technically a crime which has been stated several times, but he wasnt charged...

AND! a few days before when the kid and his friends got into with the black guys and his friends at a party, and the black guy was supposedly beaten up by a group.. nothing was done. And when it was brought up in court they got probation. But on the other side the black guys facing hard time.

I know some out you are mad because you cant get hood points, but damn dont take it out by hanging a rope from a tree.

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Originally Posted by Tasuki_Civic

actually your wrong......

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

basically stating if the black wanted to, they could sue the school as well as the white guys who put those nooses up. For many thing, negligence, hate crime, mental distress, disturbance of the school and students, theres many reason than one and rascisim plays a big part in the white guys actions.

I think, if you decide to show some kind of action of hate. be careful, not everyone feels the same way you do. there is a reaction for every action....good or bad. it's almost as if they were asking for it.

i didnt read the whole article but i thought it was more than one person for each race that got into it by the tree. And the white guy got beat up by a shoe....and not beat up to a pulp, it was just a regular ass whoopin.

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I never understood the "argument" of "why do blacks have to have their own....." Blacks have one TV station. BET. There are a couple of spin-offs of it(BET Jazz and something else). White folks get mad when MLK Day comes around. Why? We have George Washington's birthday. Abraham Lincoln's birthday. COLUMBUS DAY!!!!! Think about that one. If there's one white-skinned person blacks should hate, it's him. If he hadn't come over and settled, there might not have been slaves. But how many channels on TV are 95% white?

Also, the only white folks that complain about MLK Day that I've noticed are the ones that don't get that day off. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I never understood the "argument" of "why do blacks have to have their own....." Blacks have one TV station. BET. There are a couple of spin-offs of it(BET Jazz and something else). White folks get mad when MLK Day comes around. Why? We have George Washington's birthday. Abraham Lincoln's birthday. COLUMBUS DAY!!!!! Think about that one. If there's one white-skinned person blacks should hate, it's him. If he hadn't come over and settled, there might not have been slaves. But how many channels on TV are 95% white?

Also, the only white folks that complain about MLK Day that I've noticed are the ones that don't get that day off. Later, QD.

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troof and the ones that dont have hood points

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Originally Posted by JITB

wow

this thread title shoudl have been changed @ page 2 because its not about jena 6 anymore. There is so much wrong information in thread its ridiculious.

WE all agree that they should be punished for waht they did..YES... and we all agree that 15-22 years in prison for that is ridiculious.. All this extra shit solavery shit is irrelevant. someone please find anything that says that soemone wants them to be freed and not be charged with anything.

as soon as a race issue pops up .. most people dont even read the facts or care to try and see whats goin on.

i was hoping that noone would make a thread about this..because it wouldturn into a severe exchange of wrong biased information...

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I want them to be freed. You know why? shit like this happens everyday in almost every town in the united states. people gets in fights which turns into a jumping all the fucking time and sometimes it is race related. We had a high school open up in Macon, Rutland high school, there first year of opening there was always racial tension, which turned into a stand at the Kroger parking lot across the street involving weapons, but luckily in Macon we are a little and broke it up with alot of pepper spray and told everyone to go the fuck home. we didn't want to make it into a big deal because its not the fucking sixties anymore, and the bad thing about this is its happening in Jena, Louisiana (the south). I guess most of the people in the south like being labeled as dumb hicks to the rest of the country. To sum all this up it was a fuckin good ole fashion ass whoopin. between teenagers. Happens all the time shouldn't be a issue even if it was 6 on 1, it happens everyday. But it happened in the south and there are some who just won't let the good ole' days go and they are still bitter and will take it out on a bunch of teenagers.

suspension and/or expulsion from school and probation- thats fine with me that is what they should get.

15 years - who know when- is fucking uncalled for and ridiculous.

Damn, this thread got out of hand quick.

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Originally Posted by itsjustdee

white men hung a noose (which was racist), but no one was hurt.
six black men beat up a white dude (for whatever reason) was severly injured.

there was a difference.

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It's also alot of miss informed people that posted
Research before you comment!!! You make yourself look stupid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoiZnr4jLY


One of the black kids, got jumped by a group of white students at a party (FIRST). Did anything happend? Nope! But when he retaliated, he gets charged with attempted murder. What's wrong with that picture?

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Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG

troof and the ones that dont have hood points

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Ive seen some beautiful black people but i never see it on TV. They always play those movies Friday, Next Friday, prison movies and hood movies. I get tired of seeing that on TV and if its not those...there is always that one token black person.

Funny how TV shows only that.

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Originally Posted by WHITE_NOISE

Ive seen some beautiful black people but i never see it on TV. They always play those movies Friday, Next Friday, prison movies and hood movies. I get tired of seeing that on TV and if its not those...there is always that one token black person.

Funny how TV shows only that.

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troof spoken, we need to start a march, but we might be breaking the law

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I never understood the "argument" of "why do blacks have to have their own....." Blacks have one TV station. BET. There are a couple of spin-offs of it(BET Jazz and something else). White folks get mad when MLK Day comes around. Why? We have George Washington's birthday. Abraham Lincoln's birthday. COLUMBUS DAY!!!!! Think about that one. If there's one white-skinned person blacks should hate, it's him. If he hadn't come over and settled, there might not have been slaves. But how many channels on TV are 95% white?

Also, the only white folks that complain about MLK Day that I've noticed are the ones that don't get that day off. Later, QD.

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Thank you Qd.......:goodjob:

You're the first and only white person that I have come in contact with that has ever made this point of their own free thinking.....reps for you if I can.

That's something I've always wondered? Why we(white people) have it so good still and yet still complain about race shit. Later, QD.

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That's something I've always wondered? Why we(white people) have it so good still and yet still complain about race shit. Later, QD.

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I've always wondered why black people have the same opportunity as everyone else yet instead of taking advantage of that they decide to bitch and whine and act like they dont have those opportunities. (i guess this would also apply to all other races as well)

If you grow up in a po-dunk, ghetto town and you dont like it because you think you will never be able to make something of yourself, then you bust your ass and work hard and get to a point to where you CAN become something. you will never get anywhere if the only thing you do is bitch and whine.


again, this doesnt apply to everyone.

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Originally Posted by JITB

Be stupid if u want, but tell me what could your white entertainment channel show thats not already on tv? Just like the spanish channel, and the womens channel. its a channel thats directed towards a certain group of people.

Take one thing and get outrageous with it, like you dont know why its like that.

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well i guess you didnt see the sarcasm.
obviously i wasnt serious, i was just trying to provoke a response.


i dont give a shit about whats on tv.

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

I've always wondered why black people have the same opportunity as everyone else yet instead of taking advantage of that they decide to bitch and whine and act like they dont have those opportunities. (i guess this would also apply to all other races as well)

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That's very true. And as much weight as your statement holds, mine is still more gold, because as white people, I'll be straight up honest, we have it made in the USA. Anecdote:

When I was at Budweiser, when our truck was short beer, we would have to go into the warehouse and get what we were short. The manager was an older white dude. Any time a black guy would go in to get his cases, he would be approached by the manager faster than an ACE Check Cashing place by welfare check holders. I walk in, or any other white person, get my beer and I can casually stroll out and say hey to people with my beer without even being looked at.

So, again, I ask what the fuck are whites complaining about? Why are white people so quick to point out that blacks have their own TV channel? Their own day off(which many whites get off, too) and their own month of history? Is your life that miserable that you have to find solace in worrying about another race and their life? Later, QD.

White people (and OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL) seem to cry about everything black people do. Everytime an issue comes up concerning them they bring up topics that have no relevancy to shit with the main topic and is usually something partially to really negative. It's like some white people have some built-in hate gene for black people no matter what.

But at the same time, black people do complain a lot about being 2nd-3rd in the race wars of america. I actually hear them talking about latinos and how they're taking us over lol.

I've been around a lot of both races and I can honestly say I hear more complaining and smart remarks from white people though. Black people walk around not really caring until they can't get the job or they get plled over. I'm not trying to be funny or anything either.....

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Originally Posted by Bballjamal

White people (and OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL) seem to cry about everything black people do. Everytime an issue comes up concerning them they bring up topics that have no relevancy to shit with the main topic and is usually something partially to really negative. It's like some white people have some built-in hate gene for black people no matter what.

But at the same time, black people do complain a lot about being 2nd-3rd in the race wars of america. I actually hear them talking about latinos and how they're taking us over lol.

I've been around a lot of both races and I can honestly say I hear more complaining and smart remarks from white people though. Black people walk around not really caring until they can't get the job or they get plled over. I'm not trying to be funny or anything either.....

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thats is when they start not caring and sghit on the real. Whats funny is some whites try to act like they know about blacks like they have been in our shoes.

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thats is when they start not caring and sghit on the real. Whats funny is some whites try to act like they know about blacks like they have been in our shoes.

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CORRECT you coon bastard :yes:

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CORRECT you coon bastard :yes:

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ok you little fat faggot, thank you. What s going down tonight

I'm not white, I'm hispanic. I don't complain about other races or even care too much about what anyone does.

Do not complain about equality and things not being far. Everyone's entitled to the same rights and opportunities as others. It's what each person decides to do with it that makes everyone different. Your boss treats you different than another employee? Quit and find something else or start your own thing.

I'm a firm believer in anything is possible with enough motivation. I don't care who you are, where you came from, what you went through or what color your skin is. You can either choose to sit and sulk and cry about how life isn't fair or you can do something about it and work through it.

When there are immigrants coming to our country not knowing our language (indians, asians, hispanics) and are able to start businesses and become successful, there's no reason anyone born here can't do the same. It's about drive. Some people have it, some people don't.

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Originally Posted by iloveboost

I'm not white, I'm hispanic. I don't complain about other races or even care too much about what anyone does.

Do not complain about equality and things not being far. Everyone's entitled to the same rights and opportunities as others. It's what each person decides to do with it that makes everyone different. Your boss treats you different than another employee? Quit and find something else or start your own thing.

I'm a firm believer in anything is possible with enough motivation. I don't care who you are, where you came from, what you went through or what color your skin is. You can either choose to sit and sulk and cry about how life isn't fair or you can do something about it and work through it.

When there are immigrants coming to our country not knowing our language (indians, asians, hispanics) and are able to start businesses and become successful, there's no reason anyone born here can't do the same. It's about drive. Some people have it, some people don't.

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I agree!

but sometimes people need help.. and alot of the time people are lazy and dont have that drive to do anything.

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Originally Posted by iloveboost

I'm not white, I'm hispanic. I don't complain about other races or even care too much about what anyone does.

Do not complain about equality and things not being far. Everyone's entitled to the same rights and opportunities as others. It's what each person decides to do with it that makes everyone different. Your boss treats you different than another employee? Quit and find something else or start your own thing.

I'm a firm believer in anything is possible with enough motivation. I don't care who you are, where you came from, what you went through or what color your skin is. You can either choose to sit and sulk and cry about how life isn't fair or you can do something about it and work through it.

When there are immigrants coming to our country not knowing our language (indians, asians, hispanics) and are able to start businesses and become successful, there's no reason anyone born here can't do the same. It's about drive. Some people have it, some people don't.

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You have a point, and then you dont also.Not everyone gets the same treatmeant or options. Sometimes people are in the right time of their life and some arent. A lot of this country has to do with powerful people if they dont want you to advance you can get held back. Then a lot has to do with what type of person you are. The difference is some people are sharks and some are pups. The sharks try to get stuff done at any cost and are the ones most likely to see big gains from what they work hard to achieve. The pup might not achieve his goals. Not matter what minority you are whites do get better chances than any other race, and people dont say that to be racist. That is what is seen on a daily basis.

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You have a point, and then you dont also.Not everyone gets the same treatmeant or options. Sometimes people are in the right time of their life and some arent. A lot of this country has to do with powerful people if they dont want you to advance you can get held back. Then a lot has to do with what type of person you are. The difference is some people are sharks and some are pups. The sharks try to get stuff done at any cost and are the ones most likely to see big gains from what they work hard to achieve. The pup might not achieve his goals. Not matter what minority you are whites do get better chances than any other race, and people dont say that to be racist. That is what is seen on a daily basis.

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You know that's a good point. But let me ask you something. This thread has already gone off topic, so I'll chime in on this one.

Why is the person getting the "better" treatment always labeled as so? How do you know what he/she has done to get to that point? So what if that person knows this person and got the job before you? That's part of life! So what if white people get better chances? If they are successful and have worked hard at it, then you will see that race is not an issue! I'm in an Engineering firm where the 7 partners are a mix of black, white, and even some asians! Why are they there? Because throughout their lives, they have worked hard and earned every single step they have taken forward in their lives.

So you are telling me, just because this person is a minority, he/she should AUTOMATICALLY get the same chances as this "white" guy? I'm sorry but that is just straight up jealousy. I see so much "blame it on the white guy" for getting the "big" job. The people doing the pointing are usually the less qualified of the two and just simply cannot face the facts, black or white.

So if you're "at the right time of your life," you should stand back so everyone else can have a shot at it. LOL, if that's the case, why do people work so hard for if they're just going to let someone pass them by when the time comes?

Like someone has already said in this thread somewhere, DRIVE is what is important. IF you have the drive and resources to succeed, then you will!

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You know that's a good point. But let me ask you something. This thread has already gone off topic, so I'll chime in on this one.

Why is the person getting the "better" treatment always labeled as so? How do you know what he/she has done to get to that point? So what if that person knows this person and got the job before you? That's part of life! So what if white people get better chances? If they are successful and have worked hard at it, then you will see that race is not an issue! I'm in an Engineering firm where the 7 partners are a mix of black, white, and even some asians! Why are they there? Because throughout their lives, they have worked hard and earned every single step they have taken forward in their lives.

So you are telling me, just because this person is a minority, he/she should AUTOMATICALLY get the same chances as this "white" guy? I'm sorry but that is just straight up jealousy. I see so much "blame it on the white guy" for getting the "big" job. The people doing the pointing are usually the less qualified of the two and just simply cannot face the facts, black or white.

So if you're "at the right time of your life," you should stand back so everyone else can have a shot at it. LOL, if that's the case, why do people work so hard for if they're just going to let someone pass them by when the time comes?

Like someone has already said in this thread somewhere, DRIVE is what is important. IF you have the drive and resources to succeed, then you will!

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You know, that's a GREAT point. How often do you see winners, successful people and over achievers complaining about what is and isn't fair? They don't focus on that garbage and do what needs to be done to move forward, not dwell on the past.

If a fighter loses a fight, he doesn't sit there and complain about how it wasn't fair he got knocked out. He trains harder and moves on.

Donald Trump is an excellent example. Came from middle-class upbringing and has gone bankrupt his fair share of times but keeps getting back up and moving forward.

I can make a day's worth of excuses on what I think isn't fair, but it's not going to get me anywhere. It's all about drive. You either have it or you don't. Simple as that.

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You know that's a good point. But let me ask you something. This thread has already gone off topic, so I'll chime in on this one.

Why is the person getting the "better" treatment always labeled as so? How do you know what he/she has done to get to that point? So what if that person knows this person and got the job before you? That's part of life! So what if white people get better chances? If they are successful and have worked hard at it, then you will see that race is not an issue! I'm in an Engineering firm where the 7 partners are a mix of black, white, and even some asians! Why are they there? Because throughout their lives, they have worked hard and earned every single step they have taken forward in their lives.

So you are telling me, just because this person is a minority, he/she should AUTOMATICALLY get the same chances as this "white" guy? I'm sorry but that is just straight up jealousy. I see so much "blame it on the white guy" for getting the "big" job. The people doing the pointing are usually the less qualified of the two and just simply cannot face the facts, black or white.

So if you're "at the right time of your life," you should stand back so everyone else can have a shot at it. LOL, if that's the case, why do people work so hard for if they're just going to let someone pass them by when the time comes?

Like someone has already said in this thread somewhere, DRIVE is what is important. IF you have the drive and resources to succeed, then you will!

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I didnt say minorities dont get the same chances, I basically said they dont get the same amount of chances. Their are people I know that have worked hard and have degrees, that get the same chances as some of their white counter parts, but had equal or better quailfications. It happens rather some of ya'll want to bring it to light or not. People hate when some minorities are better than them. I have seen it and I am glad I am not in that situation. People need to realize that because your situation might look good, there are others whos doesn't.

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Originally Posted by iloveboost

You know, that's a GREAT point. How often do you see winners, successful people and over achievers complaining about what is and isn't fair? They don't focus on that garbage and do what needs to be done to move forward, not dwell on the past.

If a fighter loses a fight, he doesn't sit there and complain about how it wasn't fair he got knocked out. He trains harder and moves on.

Donald Trump is an excellent example. Came from middle-class upbringing and has gone bankrupt his fair share of times but keeps getting back up and moving forward.

I can make a day's worth of excuses on what I think isn't fair, but it's not going to get me anywhere. It's all about drive. You either have it or you don't. Simple as that.

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donald trump has been bankrupt over 10 times and he has been bailed out every time by people like you and me. tax payers.


say hes 10mil in the hole. hes required to pay a certain amount or percentage.... lets just say 1mil. who pays the balance to the creditors.... because they sure as hell are gonna get their money back, they dont care who its from.