Thousands rally in La. to support Jena 6-

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

I. E. NOT ANYMORE!!!


no one alive today was an actual slave or slave owner.... only descendants. yet the blacks argue like they were just freed a week ago

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As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

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Originally Posted by StuntallDay

I guess, if you believe in that book of stories that is called the bible...:rolleyes:

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That is why I said "belief"...

Nevermind, you missed my sarcasm anyway....

i like this debate. its progressive

Slavery alive and well in Brazil NEW!
Although slavery officially ended in Brazil in the latter half of the 19th century, it continues unofficially now in the 21st century. A recent report from the Folha de Sao Paulo revealed that today over 10,000 workers live in conditions of slavery. Most of those cases are in the North and Northeast parts of the country. In the state of Para alone, the Ministry of Work has received 75 complaints which involve some 3,000 workers, double the number of persons from last year's report.

Brother Henri des Roziers, the coordinator of the Catholic Church's Land Commission in Para, says that he calls daily to the Ministry of Work office to demand that the government investigate these cases. "What they tell me is that the investigations, which already were few in number, have been suspended because of lack of funding," commented des Roziers. Employees of the Ministry of Work recently reported to officials that their teams of investigators (which were formed as a result of international pressure) have been dismantled. They also reported that when they had teams, investigation was very difficult as the regional governmental officials barred or made very difficult their work.

In Para, slave labor is utilized in the lumber and cattle industry. Recruiters go to various points in the cities and promise a salary of R$400 (US$275) per month. As the workers are already in a state of misery, they accept the offer and go, not even knowing that they are already in debt for the trip to the locale of employment. Once they arrive, they find that they have to buy food at exorbitant prices and soon accumulate more debt. They are threatened with death if they try to flee. Most of the sites are far away from roads and highways, making coming and going very difficult. Besides hard labor, the workers also live in subhuman housing conditions, often lack potable water, and lack nutritious and sufficient food.

But the problem is not limited to Para. Tocantins, Maranhao, Mato Grosso do Sul, and Rio Grande do Sul: all have serious cases of slave labor pending. In the city of Sao Paulo there is even a case of enslavement of undocumented Bolivians who have come to Brazil in search of employment. According to the report, two problems exacerbate slave labor: high unemployment and impunity for those who exploit the workers. Between 1995 and 2002, the government has freed 4,900 "slaves." Over 1,000 have been freed this year alone. However, more often than not, the landowner or employer simply goes in search of more workers and repeats the actions. To date, not one "employer" is serving time in prison for exploitation of workers.

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

As some morons would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

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first time I've heard that saying - and I laughed at it :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by richw131

That is why I said "belief"...

Nevermind, you missed my sarcasm anyway....

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I got it.....I guess you missed MY attempt @ sarcasm....LOL:lmfao:

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

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the fuck?


NEWSFLASH!!!!! the civil war is over!!! put away your musket

Bush hates black people

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Originally Posted by Echonova

Slavery alive and well in Brazil NEW!
Although slavery officially ended in Brazil in the latter half of the 19th century, it continues unofficially now in the 21st century. A recent report from the Folha de Sao Paulo revealed that today over 10,000 workers live in conditions of slavery. Most of those cases are in the North and Northeast parts of the country. In the state of Para alone, the Ministry of Work has received 75 complaints which involve some 3,000 workers, double the number of persons from last year's report.

Brother Henri des Roziers, the coordinator of the Catholic Church's Land Commission in Para, says that he calls daily to the Ministry of Work office to demand that the government investigate these cases. "What they tell me is that the investigations, which already were few in number, have been suspended because of lack of funding," commented des Roziers. Employees of the Ministry of Work recently reported to officials that their teams of investigators (which were formed as a result of international pressure) have been dismantled. They also reported that when they had teams, investigation was very difficult as the regional governmental officials barred or made very difficult their work.

In Para, slave labor is utilized in the lumber and cattle industry. Recruiters go to various points in the cities and promise a salary of R$400 (US$275) per month. As the workers are already in a state of misery, they accept the offer and go, not even knowing that they are already in debt for the trip to the locale of employment. Once they arrive, they find that they have to buy food at exorbitant prices and soon accumulate more debt. They are threatened with death if they try to flee. Most of the sites are far away from roads and highways, making coming and going very difficult. Besides hard labor, the workers also live in subhuman housing conditions, often lack potable water, and lack nutritious and sufficient food.

But the problem is not limited to Para. Tocantins, Maranhao, Mato Grosso do Sul, and Rio Grande do Sul: all have serious cases of slave labor pending. In the city of Sao Paulo there is even a case of enslavement of undocumented Bolivians who have come to Brazil in search of employment. According to the report, two problems exacerbate slave labor: high unemployment and impunity for those who exploit the workers. Between 1995 and 2002, the government has freed 4,900 "slaves." Over 1,000 have been freed this year alone. However, more often than not, the landowner or employer simply goes in search of more workers and repeats the actions. To date, not one "employer" is serving time in prison for exploitation of workers.

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slavery is eveywhere.

troof....



but this is not brazil so that was pointless

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

Bush hates black people

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he personally told you that he hates black people?

The botton line is as long as humanity exists, so will racism and prejudice.
There will never be a time in history when we will all get along...

Prejudice is human nature....I'm not excusing it but facts are facts...

You can either get the fuck over it and learn to deal w/it or let it affect you and thus use it as a crutch to justify your shortcomings....

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

slavery is eveywhere.

troof....



but this is not brazil so that was pointless

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Agreed, much like the rest of the thread.:lmfao: :lmfao: Nobody is going to change the others view.

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Originally Posted by StuntallDay

I got it.....I guess you missed MY attempt @ sarcasm....LOL:lmfao:

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I think it got lost in the folded, flabby fat that is Dominikan521's stupidity. :D

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Originally Posted by StuntallDay

The botton line is as long as humanity exists, so will racism and prejudice.
There will never be a time in history when we will all get along...

Prejudice is human nature....I'm not excusing it but facts are facts...

You can either get the fuck over it and learn to deal w/it or let it affect you and thus use it as a crutch to justify your shortcomings....

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good point. our government allows people to suck at life and still get away with it.

look at bankruptcy.... they dont let anyone fail. no one is responsible for their own actions

y does it always have to be whites are racist towards blacks............black people can be just as racist if not more

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Originally Posted by Echonova

Agreed, much like the rest of the thread.:lmfao: :lmfao: Nobody is going to change the others view.

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eddjookashun is a necessity for people to become less ignorant..... that is whats happening here.... people will always be stupid but at least you can try to educate them. if they dont learn....thats their problem

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Originally Posted by richw131

I think it got lost in the folded, flabby fat that is Dominikan521's stupidity. :D

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So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

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Originally Posted by Stormhammer

2006

SEPT. 1
Students arrive at Jena High School to find three nooses hanging from a tree in the center of the campus. Earlier in the week, some black students had asked whether they could sit under the tree alongside the white students.

SEPT. 7
Three white students are recommended for expulsion by the Jena High School principal after being accused of hanging the nooses.

SEPT.8
Schools Superintendent Roy D. Breithaupt announces that the students recommended for expulsion instead had been suspended, though he refused to say for how long, citing student privacy rules.

NOV. 30
Fire destroys the main academic building at Jena High School and is ruled the work of an arsonist. Later that night, a fight is reported at the Fair Barn in Jena at a private party.

DEC. 2
A fight is reported at the Gotta Go convenience store in Jena in which investigators say three students beat another man and took his shotgun. One of those accused later says the man had pulled the gun on them and that they had disarmed him.

DEC. 4
Jena High School reopens four days after the fire, with classes held in the undamaged wing of the school, library, band room and the home economics cottage. According to court documents, on the same day school reopens, white student Justin Barker is attacked by several students, knocked unconscious and rushed to LaSalle General Hospital. The LaSalle Parish School Board declares a state of emergency after the fire.

DEC. 5
It is announced that four people have been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight -- Carwin Jones, 18, Robert Bailey Jr., 17, Theo Shaw, 17, and an unnamed juvenile who was later identified as Jesse Ray Beard -- and charged with aggravated second-degree battery. Also, Shaw, Bailey and Ryan Simmons, 17, are arrested on charges of theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery and disturbing the peace in connection with the Dec. 2 fight. Deputies arrest Justin Sloan, 22, of Jena, in connection with the Nov. 30 fight and also implicate Bailey in that fight.

DEC. 6
It is announced that another unnamed juvenile has been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight.

DEC. 7
The LaSalle Parish District Attorney's Office announces that the charges against the six students arrested in the Dec. 4 case have been upgraded to attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. One of the unnamed students is identified as Bryant Purvis, 17.

DEC. 13
Nearly 500 people join hands at the Jena High School football stadium in a unity rally.

DEC. 15
It is announced that one of the two juveniles charged in the Dec. 4 fight - Mychal Bell, 16 - is being charged as an adult with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. Bail is set at $90,000.

2007

JAN. 3
Purvis, Jones and Beard posted bail and were released from jail.

JAN. 6
Relatives of the students accused in the Dec. 4 fight say they have been expelled.

MAY 2
Demonstrators gather on the steps of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse shouting "Free the Jena Six" - the name now given to the students charged in the Dec. 4 fight. It is revealed that Bailey also has been released from jail.

MAY 10
Justin Barker, the victim in the Dec. 4 fight, is arrested after being accused of bringing a gun onto the Jena High School campus. Authorities say the gun, a hunting rifle, was found in Barker's truck.

MAY 11
Breithaupt says he is recommending that Barker be expelled.

MAY 21
The trial of three of the Jena Six is postponed until at least June 25.

JUNE 25
Court proceedings begin for Bell, whose charges are reduced to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same.

JUNE 26
An all-white jury is selected to try Bell after only 50 of 150 people called to jury duty show up. None of the prospective jurors are black.

JUNE 27
LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters calls 17 witnesses to testify before resting, while Bell's defense attorney, Blane Williams, calls none.

JUNE 28
Bell is convicted of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same after the jury deliberates for just shy of three hours. He faces more than 20 years in prison when sentencing begins on July 31.

JULY 31
The tree in which the nooses were found is cut down.

AUG. 6
The Rev. Al Sharpton becomes the first national civil rights leader to visit Jena in support of the six students.

AUG. 14
Martin Luther King III speaks in support of the students in Jena, and meets with Bell and his family.

AUG. 17
First day of school; mood remains relatively calm.

AUG. 24
After court records reveal that he has prior criminal offenses, Bell is denied bond.

AUG. 28
Jena High School officials ban "Free the Jena Six" T-shirts.

SEPT. 4
Bell's conviction on conspiracy charges is thrown out. Charges against Jones and Shaw are reduced.

SEPT. 9
The Rev. Jesse Jackson announces a march on Jena to be held on the new date of Bell's sentencing, Sept. 20.

SEPT. 10
Four of the five students charged with attempted murder have their charges reduced.

SEPT. 14
Bell's conviction is overturned by an appeals court, but he remains jailed. Although a sentencing hearing is no longer necessary, civil rights leaders say the Sept. 20 rally will go on as planned.

SEPT. 19
The Rev. Al Sharpton and others visit Jena in advance of a big rally planned for Sept. 20. Buses begin arriving in Alexandria from around the nation with people planning to attend the rally. A gathering to show support for the Jena Six is held in the Alexandria Riverfront Center.

SEPT. 20
Thousands of people, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, march in Jena on behalf of the Jena Six. The demonstration draws national media attention. More activities are slated in the afternoon in Alexandria.






I haven't seen anything that connected the white kid that had been severely beaten to him being the one that participated in the noose hanging. Nothing in the news whatsoever. In fact, they state that they were suspended and or expelled. So if they weren't there, who did the 6 beat up? :thinking: This is where the media is portraying things wrongly.

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You sire, are amazing. So brilliant of a find that I don't even know what to do.

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

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I believe he's already posted it...

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

y does it always have to be whites are racist towards blacks............black people can be just as racist if not more

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You're like 2 weeks late...:rolleyes:

Don't you have some homework to go do?

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

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its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

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LOL, oh Jesus...

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Originally Posted by fcman

I believe he's already posted it...

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It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

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Originally Posted by StuntallDay

You're like 2 weeks late...:rolleyes:

Don't you have some homework to go do?

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meany

Dominican. You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.

You debate is pointless. They are criminals, evidence has been looked at. It has been proven (In your home country now it seems) that blacks enslave other blacks and now you are just shooting blanks into the wind.

As Paul Harvey would say, "and THAT is the rest of the story" Good day.

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

meany

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LOL....:D

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

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:blah:

Your'e one stupid fuck.

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

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See Post #131 on page #7 :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

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Your'e one stupid fuck.

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speak for yourself dumbass.

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

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:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by Glides

Dominican. You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.

You debate is pointless. They are criminals, evidence has been looked at. It has been proven (In your home country now it seems) that blacks enslave other blacks and now you are just shooting blanks into the wind.

As Paul Harvey would say, "and THAT is the rest of the story" Good day.

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My debate is pointless? Please provide me with an outline of my debate and your counter-points. Do you even know what my original debate was about? :no:

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

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How long did it take for you to come up with that one? :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by Dominikan521

It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

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I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

speak for yourself dumbass.

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According to you I'm on welfare. :blah:

According to you those six boys don't merit a reconsideration on the imposed and soon to be pressed charges because they're not worth your shitty tax dollars.

Listen to yourself you worthless shitbag, putting your money infront of human lives.

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Originally Posted by fcman

I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

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Ohs Nos! He did not go there!


YES HE DID!

:lmfao: :lmfao:

As a Dominican, were your ancestors slaves in the south? I really don't know and don't feel like using Google to look.

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Originally Posted by fcman

I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

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Nobody here has a perfect debate and if you don't like mine work with it and prove me wrong. Some of the stuff I've posted is opinion other things fact. If you don't like my opinions, fine, your entitled to think what you want but throwing in insults along the way is pointless and makes you look like an idiot.

the white students never hit any of the black students,and the white students were suspenned from school.........so where do think its ok to beat somebody up for that?

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Originally Posted by Echonova

As a Dominican, were your ancestors slaves in the south? I really don't know and don't feel like using Google to look.

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Are you kidding, as a Dominican, his great-great grandparents probably owned Haitian slaves.